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    Hi can anyone tell me if a salisbury 10 bolt lsd centre out of a commodore will fit into my hq wagon 10 bolt diff

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    all V8 cars from HK to VK 100% has salisbury diffs and from any of them you can change the centre.
    But..
    2.60 and 2.78 ratio diff centre's are interchangeable and the 3.08,3.36 & 3.55 ratio centre's are interchangeable.
    So a 3.36 will not fit a 2.78 centre for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HQ308Ute View Post
    all V8 cars from HK to VK 100% has salisbury diffs and from any of them you can change the centre.
    ...............
    the first Broughams had banjo diffs.... even though they had V8s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty2 View Post
    the first Broughams had banjo diffs.... even though they had V8s
    that's right they did too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HQ308Ute View Post
    that's right they did too.
    My L32 4 speed {253} SLR had a factory banjo too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazz 77 View Post
    Hi can anyone tell me if a salisbury 10 bolt lsd centre out of a commodore will fit into my hq wagon 10 bolt diff
    Short answer is YES it will.

    The Salisbury 10 bolt was introduced in HQ series V8's and one tonners.

    HK-HG with Chev V8's got a Chev 10 bolt diff, not a Salisbury.

    I have fitted 4.44 gears into an original 2.60 housing, so not all theories regarding interchangeability are correct.

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    note the Salisbury diffs from the HK/T/G range

    Salisbury Differential - Holdenpaedia

    the 2.60 and the 2.78 use a slightly different carrier from the other ratios so you cant 'swap' them out with the 3 an up ratios but if you got it in there fair enough.

    gotta love Holden lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HQ308Ute View Post
    note the Salisbury diffs from the HK/T/G range

    Salisbury Differential - Holdenpaedia

    the 2.60 and the 2.78 use a slightly different carrier from the other ratios so you cant 'swap' them out with the 3 an up ratios but if you got it in there fair enough.

    gotta love Holden lore.
    The information on that site can be helpful but i don't take it as gospel.

    An old diff' guy who is no longer around, told me many years ago that the HK 10 bolt and the HQ 10 bolt are two different things.
    I was swapping the 2.60 open diff in my VK, for a 3.55 lsd set and he advised me before buying the gears, to ensure they were not from a HK-HG 10 bolt diff, as they are different.
    He said to look for HQ and later only.
    Considering he had a Silver Mink Bathurst HK, i figured he knew what was what.

    Yes the carrier must suit the gear set used, there is something like 10mm difference.

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    HK-T-G 10 bolt is different to the Aussie HQ-on 10 bolt

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    Quote Originally Posted by hq308 View Post
    HK-T-G 10 bolt is different to the Aussie HQ-on 10 bolt
    the question that's arisen and in disagreement with Holdenpedia is that HK/T/G's are not Salisburys...
    i put it to the hq/wb owners club and correct the gears arent interchangeable but theyre still known and referred to as salisburys
    but for the OP's question.. the answer is 'yes'
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    Quote Originally Posted by HQ308Ute View Post
    the question that's arisen and in disagreement with Holdenpedia is that HK/T/G's are not Salisburys...
    i put it to the hq/wb owners club and correct the gears arent interchangeable but theyre still known and referred to as salisburys
    ................'
    that just shows you how little these knobheads at Holdenpedia know.

    My genuine GMH service manuals for these models clearly state that what we know
    as the non removable centre diff used by GMH.. is a Salisbury

    for example Page 4.2 of the HT Holden manual starts with repair techniques
    for the Salibury diff

    oh... and while I am at it, Holden never called the Banjo diff.. Banjo until HQ series
    they always call it the 'Hotchkiss drive diff' (from FX days)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty2 View Post
    that just shows you how little these knobheads at Holdenpedia know.

    My genuine GMH service manuals for these models clearly state that what we know
    as the non removable centre diff used by GMH.. is a Salisbury

    for example Page 4.2 of the HT Holden manual starts with repair techniques
    for the Salibury diff

    oh... and while I am at it, Holden never called the Banjo diff.. Banjo until HQ series
    they always call it the 'Hotchkiss drive diff' (from FX days)

    Cheers
    what it came down to was:
    " Salisbury is a descriptive, definition, more to do with its design.
    HK-G used the U.S built Chevy 10 bolt.
    The the HQ - VK 10 bolt is built by Borg Warner for Australian cars."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HQ308Ute View Post
    what it came down to was:
    " Salisbury is a descriptive, definition, more to do with its design.
    HK-G used the U.S built Chevy 10 bolt.
    The the HQ - VK 10 bolt is built by Borg Warner for Australian cars."

    ooops.. correction needed
    ALL HQ-VK S1 diffs (Except HQ350) were built by GMH at Fishermen's Bend
    .. not BW

    BW came in and fitted non-V8 VK SII with their diffs. VK SII still used
    the GMH built Salisbury
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty2 View Post
    ooops.. correction needed
    ALL HQ-VK S1 diffs (Except HQ350) were built by GMH at Fishermen's Bend
    .. not BW

    BW came in and fitted non-V8 VK SII with their diffs. VK SII still used
    the GMH built Salisbury
    cool i'll throw that into the works

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    Someone threw this in as well which is kind of interesting..

    The Salisbury Wheel Company was founded in Jamestown, New York, in 1901 when C.W. Salisbury, a key-maker and mender of umbrellas, patented an automobile wheel, then pooled his life savings with two colleagues, Scott Penfield and E.D. Sherman, and started manufacture.

    Salisbury's first customer was the E.R. Thomas company, maker of the Thomas Flyer. In 1905, the company started manufacturing front axles. Two years later rear axles were added to its product line.

    Acquired by Spicer in 1919, Salisbury was moved to Toledo in 1929, closer to the center of the automotive industry. Salisbury axles became standard equipment in thousands of automotive vehicles. At the outbreak of World War II the light, Salisbury's rugged axles proved ideal for the Jeep. The Jeep proved so popular that in 1945 Salisbury had to build a new plant in Fort Wayne, Indiana. In 1970, the Salisbury Axle group was renamed the Spicer Axle Division.

    The Salisbury axle was well known in England during and after WWII because of the Jeep. So in typical English fashion, the English never stopped calling the axle type "Salisburys" even after the division and their products were renamed.

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