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    Default Decisions Decisions. What to buy?

    So I'm gunna be in the market for a family limo later this year. Looking at up to 35K range. This will be the "good car", the one to use when distance and comfort is needed. We have the other categories of automotive enjoyment covered by bikes, a 4wd, and an old hobby car.
    I've done a bit of research and to be honest, I can't understand why 2016 Caprice prices are so low compared to the other Holden V8's available.
    Can anyone shed some light on this please?

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    Probably because they are big and heavy which most don't want. Also may be scared of the the electronics involved driving the creature comforts and the costs to repair them. For the coin you are looking at spending I would be looking at a good 2nd hand Merc.

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    They’re just not the kind of car people like to buy secondhand. Statesman and Caprice have never been really great at holding value.

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    Actually looking into BMW or Audi. Not a Merc fan. But the "bells and whistles " on the Holden for same money is a big part of it, as well as the V8 motor. V8 Euro is out of our price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playwme View Post
    They’re just not the kind of car people like to buy secondhand. Statesman and Caprice have never been really great at holding value.
    This could be to our advantage I suppose. Are they known to have issues with the electronics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agget View Post
    Actually looking into BMW or Audi. Not a Merc fan. But the "bells and whistles " on the Holden for same money is a big part of it, as well as the V8 motor. V8 Euro is out of our price range.
    ... win the lotto first!

    We have had a few in the fleet over the years
    not much seems to go wrong but the servicing costs
    ... even at non dealer places are eye watering

    the last A3 we had..min 750 a time for a service
    the current M3 (30k compulsory service)... try 3200!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty2 View Post
    ... win the lotto first!

    We have had a few in the fleet over the years
    not much seems to go wrong but the servicing costs
    ... even at non dealer places are eye watering

    the last A3 we had..min 750 a time for a service
    the current M3 (30k compulsory service)... try 3200!
    Holy shit, that's a deal breaker right there.

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    Not just that but my brother had a 2007 M3 BMW the 4.0 V8 (nice car) but just out of warranty by about 4 weeks one of the computer modules failed and quote was $5000 for parts and labour, they fixed it as a good will gesture because the car was always serviced with BMW etc.. Had that have happened lets say 3-4 yrs later, lets just say you are f-cked..

    If you want one, get a finance deal for it and pay it off instead of smashing a big wad on the table for a 2nd hand out of warranty piece of crap.. Only way to buy something Euro or exotica is new...

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    nah.. theyre for people on 200.000+ a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulzig View Post
    Only way to buy something Euro or exotica is new...
    I spent most of my adult life working for European car manufacturers, this is very sound advice.

    Some late model Porsche vehicles are prone to diff failures but brand new crown wheel and pinions are no longer available.....
    Some low cost parts on another make are also prone to failure but are not available as a spare part, you must buy a complete assembly.....
    Some Volkswagen models have valve body problems at low kilometers, valve bodies can cost between $2500 and $4500 over here but production cost at the factory is around 50 Euro.....

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    I was looking at getting a Statesman or a Caprice as a drive car, to me they seem to be good value. I don't know that reliability will be an issue, I've seen a few ex-limos come up for sale in the 4-600,000km range. I have no interest in owning one with that sort of kays, I just think it shows they can't be too bad a thing to still (in some cases) being used as a limo with over half a million km's on it.

    Check this one out, it's a V6 one with 699,999km apparently https://www.carsales.com.au/private/...-5488594/?Cr=0

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    Only way to buy something Euro or exotica is new...[/QUOTE]

    New Euro or exotica comes with eye watering depreciation that will leave any expensive service costs way behind in the dust.

    If you are on this site you should be doing all your servicing and repairs yourself.

    I'm on my 3rd euro daily driver in over 15 years. I buy em at 10 years old for 10k with over 130k+ kms on the clock. Bloody nice cars too. Research the model to death first. Never had one break down. I run em up to 300k+ kms and sell em for about $3k. Biggest repair has been new front discs (Brembo) and pads for $200 + wreckers are everywhere and parts are cheap. Commos or Falcons are too thirsty as a daily drive when I do 30,000k's per year and sure as hell beats driving a Corolla.

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    https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/use...4bcbd375dbda8e

    Here ya go if ya want a V8. Bloody thing will go forever if it's a good one. Due diligence is everything.

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    Thanks for the advice people.
    I'm struggling to find a reason to not go with the 6.2 V8 Caprice.
    FiL is an NRMA mechanic and has nothing to repot regarding the Holdens from 2015 onwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTaxi View Post
    Only way to buy something Euro or exotica is new...
    New Euro or exotica comes with eye watering depreciation that will leave any expensive service costs way behind in the dust.

    If you are on this site you should be doing all your servicing and repairs yourself.

    I'm on my 3rd euro daily driver in over 15 years. I buy em at 10 years old for 10k with over 130k+ kms on the clock. Bloody nice cars too. Research the model to death first. Never had one break down. I run em up to 300k+ kms and sell em for about $3k. Biggest repair has been new front discs (Brembo) and pads for $200 + wreckers are everywhere and parts are cheap. Commos or Falcons are too thirsty as a daily drive when I do 30,000k's per year and sure as hell beats driving a Corolla.[/QUOTE]

    Yep. Plus they were probably owned by someone on 200k/year, so have full factory service history and low k’s and always garaged. Plus I’m not talking paddle shift M3’s. maybe a nice C200 or something.

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