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    Default HZ Kingswood Blower fan alternatives?

    Hey guys,
    so the blower fan in the old wagon has had enough. The bushings are shot and it's a bit far gone to bring back.
    Have not had much luck finding one, it's the aircon HZ one which is different to all the others as you can imagine.
    Just wondering if anyone has used a fan from something a little newer? Worst case I'll wander round the wreckers till I find something close, but thought maybe someone else has had the same problem.
    I can always make a baking plate to suit if I can find something with the right size barrel fan. Something that throws a little more air would be a bonus. It only has the one wire with an external resistor setup, can upgrade that too if needed.
    I not long had the aircon system all done up with a new compressor and such and now the fan has died.

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    Small computer fan?

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    Give Greg at Classicozwreck in Toronto a call, he'd have one you can use or rebuild.

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    Gonna need something a fair bit bigger than a computer fan. I had called him about it a year ago when I first had dramas with it. He said they are quite rare for the aircon setup. I managed to jam a ball bearing in it that time round and it got me a few months use. Think it's time to replace it now. Will hopefully be able to use my fan barrel so it's more the fan motor that I need. Will hopefully be able to find something suitable at the wreckers.

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    Some of these you can pull apart and swap motors. I think anything with Harrison air may have a similar motor. Even VB-VH, but the fan goes the other way I think, but may just be a polarity change and fan blade swap.
    https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/VB-VC-SLE-...UAAOSw-K9ZKPJG

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    That looks exactly the same as mine. I hadn't even thought to look up the Harrison side of things. Good job man, cheers!

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    the fan from a daewoo is a close fit, a friend used one for his wb statesman

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    Thanks Grunt, good to know. I'm planning on heading to the wreckers tomorrow. A VE van looks like it may potentially do the job too. Need to check out the direction that they blow as well. And will def take into account how much work it is to pull the bloody dash out of something to get at the fan!
    Will start with a walk around and see if I fluke it and there is one already pulled out of something!

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    There may still be one on the shelf at Beresfield Spares if you are lucky if Greg at ClassicOz doesn’t have one. Ask the old dude at Bishop’s Bridge to. There are no more older cars in his yard but he may have a fan. The other is the Commodore Shop for a VB-VH Harrison fan.

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    HI
    The aircon fan is larger than standard to provide greater air flow/pressure to overcome the resistance of the evap A/C cooling core .
    The fan capacity was increased for the xtra vent in HQ [hj onwards had all vents standard?]

    The olite bushes inside the fan should be ok
    brushes last a while other wise change

    Brush holder are held in by folding metal tags

    Electrical issues
    found HUGE amounts of rust inside them --fan earths thru body ,this is a shit idea
    The positive battery terminal falls apart and shorts out pos wire to earth ka boom
    Cooling rubber duct is removed and motor overheats . Coolling duct is an easy fix 90 deg. 5/8 heater hose install restricter plug with 10mm hole l

    Remedy
    run pos neg cable to brushes inside fan
    fan can be opened rivet back together
    brush wires will have to be soldered to wire
    neg wire glued inside body
    USE 5MM twin core auto cable and crush between housings when reassembled

    Current draw 12-15amps surge to 35amps

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    Nice info there swampy, thanks mate. Might look at giving it a birthday down the track. For now I picked up a blower out of a Subaru Outback. I had to grind a second flat onto the shaft to suit the original fan barrel and needed a washer to space it out but it looks like it's going to be a good thing. Spins a lot faster than the old one and draws less current. Will need to set up a test rig and check out whether I can use the original resistor setup. Have ordered a new one too as the old one has fairly rusty terminals which won't be helping either.

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    hi
    Where did u get the resisters from ???
    The factory Aircon has 4 speeds . Standard comes only 3 speed .Top speed power comes from battery to circuit breaker to relay to fan motor . The factory dash board wire is only a trigger wire when top speed is used .

    Pics of your old unit ??

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    Hi Swampy, I wound up giving the old resister a birthday for now. Have a mate at a rare spares dealer trying to track me down the four speed (3 spring) resistor but for now the old one is working fine.
    One thing I've found is that the low speeds are quite low, I would prob only ever use 3 and then 4 is a big step up from that. A fair step up from the old fan too which is a welcome thing. Except for all the crap it blew out all over me for the first 20 mins or so!
    It's a whole lot quieter than the original was too which is another bonus. Plus it doesn't blow fuses constantly.
    I can take pics but I don't have photo bucket to be able to post them up. I used the original fan barrel on the Subaru motor and have the original resistor and wiring setup incase that wasn't clear.
    May look at changing the resistance to space out the speeds a little better but in honesty I likely wont ever get around to it.... Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt308 View Post
    the fan from a daewoo is a close fit, a friend used one for his wb statesman

    Did it push more air flow out do you know because my Stato if woful??...

    Thx
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    Hi Griffo, the Subaru one that I got is definitely blowing more air. Still not like a new car but more than the old fan. Was an older Subaru outback. Pretty easy to get the fan out of too, took ales than five mins.

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