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    Could I upgrade the 13 yr old coil in my VS to an MSD blaster coil without a cdi? If so would it be worthwhile, or do i fork out the extra cash for the rest of the ignition system? Cheers

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    Yes you can, they can be run with out the CDI unit, whats done to the motor to warrent the need of a decent igniton system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVK 355 View Post
    Yes you can, they can be run with out the CDI unit, whats done to the motor to warrent the need of a decent igniton system.
    Still in the planning stages of the build mate. The donk in car plus fuel system will be bout 15k worth not including the stroker crank, rockers, balancer, timing chain, thats already in the car. Ill post the thread when its finished, or close to. Bought a textralia z grip clutch with billet flywheel for the VS 6spd last week. Over seas at the moment so wont be able to do much more till I come back to Oz, so maken sure I have everything soughted by the time I come back.

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    If its a stroker motor and your chasing power, fork the extra and get the ignition system! You will need it mate!
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    im thinking about doing this aswell to my GTS. some people say dont bother because the commodore system is good but everything helps. might organise it before i get the car dynoed again
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    Yeh might be the go. Ive heard the extra couple of hundred bux is worth it. I guess better spark is more power en lower emissions. Crane reckon their CDI gave a VL a 30rwkw jump! Thats a big call!

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    very impressive, didnt think it would gain that much
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    Yea advertising great isnt it... if you can tell me what proelastin B5 with mico beads is, and what it does to a women face ill buy it for her for christmas... then again Nivea for men doesn't advertise that crap, but whats the difference then in men and womens facial skin...


    Reading between the lines then you have to say its all bullshit.
    30kw from a STD VL hu....smells a bit the same way..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BossHoggett View Post
    Yea advertising great isnt it... if you can tell me what proelastin B5 with mico beads is, and what it does to a women face ill buy it for her for christmas... then again Nivea for men doesn't advertise that crap, but whats the difference then in men and womens facial skin...


    Reading between the lines then you have to say its all bullshit.
    30kw from a STD VL hu....smells a bit the same way..
    Yeh I agree with you man. It was a built engine, but surely to get those kind of results, other things would have had to be done at the same time. Ohwell.. Even if it gives ya 8kw with better fuel economy and better starts then it would be worth the couple of hundred bucks.

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    Hi guys just wondering i have a BOSCH ELECTRONIC DISSY now would it be worth getting a MSD or ICE igntion coil for it would it help with starting/performance over the standard electronic coil?

    also do you go for the OIL FILLED coil or the other COMPACT type (ICE , MSD have both)

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    i have been looking at the BOSCH MEC716 , MSD SS COIL OR ICE ?
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    I was told many years ago that the stock Bosch elect dizzy and oil filled can coil will throw a spark big enough for 550 fwhp - my 355 runs 420 fwhp with 100 hp shot of NOS - no miss fire "ever" !
    Starts first time every time, plugs burn clean, no black smoke (um well a little with the NOS).

    However if your going to make over 550 hp i guess you'd be well advised to upgrade to an MSD 6AL digital with matching coil and dizzy which will allow you to digitally map your timing curve plus the added advantage of programmable rev limiter and ignition retard for boost or big shots of NOS.

    As for the MEC716 coils - tried em, no thanks, more trouble than there worth, oil filled coil makes more spark and last 5 times longer !

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    i don't think you would just say that if you run X amount of power then you should run a CDI ignition. I'd be looking at the over all engine combo and then decide if the ignition upgrade is warranted. certainly if you are intending to run high RPM and high cylinder pressures then having a ignition system that can ignite air is a definite bonus.

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    mickss what brand coil (or part number) do you run i am running the can type now but i always have trouble with them (they leak oil and stop working)

    thats why i was looking at the msd type

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroked253 View Post
    mickss what brand coil (or part number) do you run i am running the can type now but i always have trouble with them (they leak oil and stop working)

    thats why i was looking at the msd type
    Standard OEM Bosch that Holden have always used.
    The bosch GT40 is the same coil with a nice paint job !
    Oil filled coils should be mounted vertically were possible

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