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    Default Anyone here tricked up a 351 Windsor that can help me?

    Just looking for someone who I can ask a few questions to about getting a stock 351 to come alive and what they may have done. If anyone has done an upgrade on their Windsor or has some knowledge on the subject can you please reply to this and I will send the details of my engine in its current state and roughly what I'd like to achieve. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm struggling to find any help from anybody give that this is obviously a fairly common engine to build.
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    Same as any other Ford... Heads, cam, intake, compression, strokers etc... Post up what you want to do in terms of end result or power level, and some suggestions will be thrown up

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    These are a good cheap upgrade for heads and its a Ford factory performance part:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/p/Ford-M-604...8cc/1848156166

    Alternatively these are newer but with a bigger 64cc combustion chamber:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/sea...Ascending&ar=1

    Performer RPM intake:

    https://www.edelbrock.com/performer-...fold-2181.html

    Mild camshaft:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...view/make/ford

    AVS2 Carb:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...1906/overview/

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    Basically I started by wanting to upgrade the cam but I found that to use a cam with a more noticeable idle, the rockers and pressed rocker studs in the standard heads wouldn't handle the lift so I realised I'd have to get aftermarket heads. A little more power would be nice but its only going to be street driven. I just wanted to see what other people have done and what products work with other ones. Also at what point in a cam upgrade would I have to consider a higher stall torque convertor? What numbers am I looking for that would indicate a lumpier cam idle and what are the reputable brands. Are all aftermarket heads produced to tolerate a higher lift to give valve clearance or is that dependant on the cam size?

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    Cheers daymoe. This is the kind of answer I was after? Is this what you've got happening? If so have you got any vids of it running?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daymoe View Post
    These are a good cheap upgrade for heads and its a Ford factory performance part:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/p/Ford-M-604...8cc/1848156166

    Alternatively these are newer but with a bigger 64cc combustion chamber:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/sea...Ascending&ar=1

    Performer RPM intake:

    https://www.edelbrock.com/performer-...fold-2181.html

    Mild camshaft:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...view/make/ford

    AVS2 Carb:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...1906/overview/

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    For what you want you will only need around .500" lift...

    Are you tearing the engine apart to check condition and fit new, pistons, rings? or did you just want to stick a cam in, or replace heads?

    Any time is a good point to go to a higher stall converter...

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    Nah the blocks fine, i just want to get a little more action out of it. I just want to get a camshaft in that gives her a bit more personality and obviously aftermarket heads are necessary to achieve that. Id just like to know what a good combination of heads and camshaft would work to get the engine to come alive and what extra parts are required to do so without building a race car.
    And what do you mean 500 lift paulzig? I though that 500 was the stock lift. Ive been eyeing up a camshaft called a 10350703k. Would this sort of thing get this engine thumping?

    QUOTE=paulzig;755653]For what you want you will only need around .500" lift...

    Are you tearing the engine apart to check condition and fit new, pistons, rings? or did you just want to stick a cam in, or replace heads?

    Any time is a good point to go to a higher stall converter...[/QUOTE]

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    Well around .500 is all you need, if its close to being what the stock lift is then so be it... The 10350703k is around .500 lift so yeah.

    If you want the engine to come alive, I'd fit a stall converter and some lower diff gears before you touch the engine... Have you done a compression test on the engine or a leakdown to determine condition, or you mean it runs..

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    What sort of budget do you have and what type of vehicle and drive train?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulzig View Post
    Well around .500 is all you need, if its close to being what the stock lift is then so be it... The 10350703k is around .500 lift so yeah.

    If you want the engine to come alive, I'd fit a stall converter and some lower diff gears before you touch the engine... Have you done a compression test on the engine or a leakdown to determine condition, or you mean it runs..
    Yeah the engine runs like a dream. I've just always wanted to have that rumble that comes with a bigger cam. I know the diff gears would get her going off the mark a bit better but the car revs pretty high at about 100kms. its a 3.00 9 inch.

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    I don't have a budget in mind eh179. its a stock running 1969 351 Windsor block. msd dissy, weiand stealth intake, hedman headers, msd ignition, edelbrock 4 barrel 650. fmx trans with a 9 inch 3.00 diff. stock torque convertor I believe. The cars a 69 mercury cougar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EH179 View Post
    What sort of budget do you have and what type of vehicle and drive train?
    I don't have a budget in mind eh179. its a stock running 1969 351 Windsor block. msd dissy, weiand stealth intake, hedman headers, msd ignition, edelbrock 4 barrel 650. fmx trans with a 9 inch 3.00 diff. stock torque convertor I believe. The cars a 69 mercury cougar.

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    You dont have enough stall or diff gear to go with a cam that really rumbles.. Besides, a car doesnt have to rumble to be quick...

    If you want it to rumble, but still be sort of OK buy this:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...view/make/ford

    Still, the stock stall will kill you a bit but ah well ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulzig View Post
    You dont have enough stall or diff gear to go with a cam that really rumbles.. Besides, a car doesnt have to rumble to be quick...

    If you want it to rumble, but still be sort of OK buy this:

    https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...view/make/ford

    Still, the stock stall will kill you a bit but ah well ...
    yep thats right paulzig. which is why initially asked what particular parts would be required to upgrade the engine. Obviously the stock gear and stall aren't enough for a large cam which is why I asked for people to come forward if they had built up a 351 Windsor and what parts they had used so that I can work out what goes with what.
    This is the exact reason I tried to be specific in my initial post. So that anyone who had specifically done what I want to do and that is knowledgable in the specific area of I asked to reply to my query. Otherwise I would have titled my post 'any ideas on how v8s run' and reply to every man and his dog on this forum like I have on every other ford forum on the internet so far
    I really do appreciate that you've found a camshaft on summit for me but I've kind of done all that before and looking for parts that compliment each other which have been used together and explained how by someone thats done it

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    I have put larger cams in with near stock stall and 3.0 diff gears... I can tell you now, its shit... The stall and diff gears are much more important than a cam.

    351C 2v here that someone did its in my XY, it has a 2000 stall, someone put an aftermarket cam in, it has a slight rumble.. Also has 3.0 gears.. The thing isnt the best..

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