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    Default Where to get Copper Nickle brake line in OZZY

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    Trying to avoid the wait from purchasing oveseas .Only need about 3mtrs but most sell by the 7 mtr roll .
    Is there a reasonablly priced source in OZZY ??




    Copper nickle is fitted to many Euro cars for brake line and can withstand much higher pressures than straight copper. Straight Copper brake lines are illegal unless factory fitted [very old car I assume ] .

    Corrosion resistance is exceptional of copp/nick
    Old holdens were fitted with Terne coating fuel tank / brake and fuel lines
    Modern day aftermarket replacement zinc coating is a very poor product . The coating depends on how long its been dipped to short=poor corrosion protection . My experience is it gets corroded badly = limited life

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    My Porsche uses those lines, they called it Cupronickel and it had a lifetime warranty so it’s pretty good stuff. Where can you buy the 7 metres? Cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by swampy View Post
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    Trying to avoid the wait from purchasing oveseas .Only need about 3mtrs but most sell by the 7 mtr roll .
    Is there a reasonablly priced source in OZZY ??




    Copper nickle is fitted to many Euro cars for brake line and can withstand much higher pressures than straight copper. Straight Copper brake lines are illegal unless factory fitted [very old car I assume ] .

    Corrosion resistance is exceptional of copp/nick
    Old holdens were fitted with Terne coating fuel tank / brake and fuel lines
    Modern day aftermarket replacement zinc coating is a very poor product . The coating depends on how long its been dipped to short=poor corrosion protection . My experience is it gets corroded badly = limited life

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    hi
    Ebay from the UK real cheap with/without fittings .
    I ran out. Managed to find 1/2 roll at brake place [old stock from closed down shop] for a fair cost.
    Used about 10mtrs for a HQ .

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    Burt Bros, Sydney. Ph: 02 9681 1433

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    Thanks and I’m glad you sorted your brakes.

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    Is there any reason that you didn't use stainless lines?

    I am in the process of replacing old rusty lines as well and am looking for info on different types of pipe.

    Cheers.

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    Stainless lines are difficult to work the material is a lot stiffer harder than copper nickle .
    Many of the hand tools mainly the flaring tool have trouble with stiffness // hardness and occasionally splits double flares .

    U need to use an approved stainless ,u would have to do research . U need to be aware of the approved numbers . The copp nik is printed with spec number and advertised as such

    All euro cars use it
    All marine trailers use it
    The positives to copp/nik is its workable
    If u stuff up a bend u can hammer it out
    Copper nik is cheap enough
    takes about 2hrs per line bend hammer fit bend hammer fit repeat

    NB debur outside a pipe with file and inside with drill bit B4 flaring

    TOOLS

    Bench vice ,round bar ,block of wood
    small ball pein hammer
    small rubber mallet
    scotch brite green

    Shop around for prices of tools below
    U can pay upwards of 200$ for most tools every day use professional versions

    ------bender tight radius
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-180-...e312:rk:1:pf:0
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mini-Tub...e7d:rk:15:pf:0

    ---------pipe cutter
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-3-16...042?hash=item2

    ---------pipe pliers
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Brake-Pi...sd6:rk:14:pf:0


    Pipe straighter . [straightens coiled tube ]
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kwix-UK-...iyyZ:rk:9:pf:0
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Draper-E...hpK:rk:11:pf:0



    Pipe flaring tool . the better bench mounted units do a better job ontough pipes
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-...de8b:rk:1:pf:0
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    Bang on Swampy with your comments on s/s brake lines.

    S/s work hardens & it is already hard to work with. Looking on the web, you find lots of people having trouble getting s/s lines to seal.

    The engineers were not dopes, they used the soft copper based line for good reason....

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampy View Post
    .......................... Straight Copper brake lines are illegal unless factory fitted .................

    copper work hardens and corrodes! The 'green' on copper is it corroding
    Copper when exposed to air turns green in colour due to corrosion.
    It reacts with gases and moisture and atmospheric gases to form a mixture of copper
    carbonate and copper hydroxide... not exactly the best !

    The copper nickel alloy still work hardens (not as badly as straight copper)
    and the nickel stops the corrosion issue


    ps... this came from our head metallurgist at work (not me )
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    HI
    I am referring to oldest earliest versions of vintage cars for the use of copper pipe not modern post ww2..

    For ease of use copper nik has the edge on stainless IMO

    Thanks smitty

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