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    So I picked up my new project a few weekends ago. Haven't had much time to really check it out as our little boy decided he wanted out early and was born 6 weeks early so the last 3 weeks have been spent mostly visiting in hospital but tonight marks his last night there

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    BUILT: 10/79
    BODY: HZ8WN35
    TRIM: 1930-77G
    PAINT: 568-30521
    ENG: L32
    TRANS: M40
    DIFF: GU4

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    308 QT28xxx which I believe is a HQ engine number.
    Trimatic


    Here's some pics of it at home.











    Had a bit of a poke around and the most obvious thing is the birdsnest of wiring both under the dash and in the engine bay. It would seem that not much of it does anything as not much actually works.

    The LPG install looks like a backyard job and also has no compliance plate. Not to fussed as the gas will go anyway.

    The interior isn't in bad condition, the center console has been hacked up to fit some electric window switches.

    The A/C setup is in keeping with the rest of the mods, it has two condensers in the grille, one in front of the other. It is a 1/2 glovebox unit which from a bit of research seems to be a bit better than the factory unit with the advantage of keeping the engine bay cleaner. While looking over the boot space I noticed two vents above the wheel arches, didn't think much of it until having a look under the boot at the LPG tank and found this...



    A second evaporator unit at the back! I have no idea how the system works as I still haven't found any sort of switch for the A/C system.

    The plan at the moment is to get my 304 in there and running maybe with an auto as opposed to the T5 that's with it now, would have been nice if it was running a turbo box instead of the trimatic as it would make running an auto easier.

    It's currently running extractors with a twin system so the exhaust shouldn't be to hard to sort out. Definately have to get the electrics sorted as none of the electric windows work along with just about everything else.

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    OMG - look at all that plumbing!

    Just as well they have large engine bays, not like the cars these days! All the best with it.

    Hope the young bloke is ok. Never easy when they arrive that early.

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    Should be a sweet project

    I spy that it has a wb radiator in it too. I have one of those a/c system that cut the back of the glove box out, far tidier than any other aftermarket setup, and to have rear air as well someone has spent some money on her. From memory there is some micro switches on the blend door which probably control the on/off that are connected to the two slide vents controls under the main dash cover. Would maybe explain why you cant find any switches to turn it on/off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AitchQue View Post
    OMG - look at all that plumbing!

    Just as well they have large engine bays, not like the cars these days! All the best with it.

    Hope the young bloke is ok. Never easy when they arrive that early.
    Hopefully it will look neater at the end, just getting rid of the gas and a bit of planning with other bits should have it looking heaps better. All is good with our young one now, got the all clear from the Doc today. It wasn't fun having to leave him each night.

    Quote Originally Posted by matty12 View Post
    Should be a sweet project

    I spy that it has a wb radiator in it too. I have one of those a/c system that cut the back of the glove box out, far tidier than any other aftermarket setup, and to have rear air as well someone has spent some money on her. From memory there is some micro switches on the blend door which probably control the on/off that are connected to the two slide vents controls under the main dash cover. Would maybe explain why you cant find any switches to turn it on/off.
    Well spotted on the radiator, I hadn't even noticed. Thanks for the info about the possible locations for the AC switches.

    Have done some checking on the info on the tags, It was built as a Kingswood and it rolled off the line painted palais white but the interior appears to be correct.

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    On closer inspection of the rad support the mods to fit the WB radiator are of the same rough standard of the rest of the car. I still have the rad support from my WB here and as the bottom is mostly rusted away I think I will unpick the radiator brackets from that and fit them to the Prem one.

    Also been tidying up the electrical. I'm surprised the car hadn't burnt down with the amount of melted connectors and wires and the lack of fuses. So far I have a large bucket of wire and a small bucket of black electrical tape.



    Gone so far is the cruise control, alarm and the home made power window and headlight looms. Under the console was a small 12v sealed battery that was somehow connected into the power window switches. As most of the wire is red i gave up on tracing where stuff went I just gave up and cut it all out. Same story for the headlight loom.

    Currently all 4 headlights are H4 style hi/lo beams but I will be changing the inner pair to H1 style lights.

    Also noticed that something isn't square in the front end as to make the bullbar fit there has been an extra set of holes drilled in the mounts to get it straight.

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    cool a bucket of wire it will come in handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by hq2door View Post
    cool a bucket of wire it will come in handy
    Who wouldn't want a bucket of 30-40 cm long pieces of wire many with connectors badly crimped on, may even put it on ebay shoud have people beating the door down

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    yep but dont throw any oem connectors out because they can be reused if they are any good

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    Did some shopping over the last few days, picked up a nose cone, a grille and a bumper.



    There is no hope of getting the driver side fitted up, the subframe is to tweaked. With all the radiator, condensers and trans cooler out it's fairly obvious that the front isn't right. Besides the rad support being butchered to mount the WB radiator and then being adjusted to fit the bent subframe I think I will be looking for a rad support also.



    In the above pic you can see the second hole that was drilled to fit the rad support and how bent the subframe is in relation to the bumper mount. After speaking to a chassis repairer I did some more measuring and it looks like more than just the front that is bent. There's also almost no shims left in the upper control arm mount so the decision now is weather to repair what I have and then at least I know it's good or try to find a good frame. At the moment i'm leaning towards getting mine repaired.



    Also was wondering about this mirror, it looks similar to the WB stato mirrors but cant find anything similar anywhere

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    Get a new subframe. If it is that bent and twisted it'll be cracked too. 6/77 on HX, HZ or even WB will work from sedan, coupe, wagon or Statesman (although there is no coupes that late!).

    Is the trim line 77G or 77C?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hq2door View Post
    yep but dont throw any oem connectors out because they can be reused if they are any good
    Definitely won't be throwing out any factory connectors, I've made that mistake before.

    Quote Originally Posted by HK1837 View Post
    Get a new subframe. If it is that bent and twisted it'll be cracked too. 6/77 on HX, HZ or even WB will work from sedan, coupe, wagon or Statesman (although there is no coupes that late!).

    Is the trim line 77G or 77C?
    Will be keeping an eye out for a subframe, but after looking for one for my ute finding a good one is easier said than done.

    The trim is 77C got the info in the first post from a picture that I took and it was a bit fuzzy. After a bit of searching 77C seems to be vinyl trim so it would seeem that has also been changed.

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    Add another vote for replacing the subframe, much easier to find a passenger car subframe than a commercial chassis in usable condition. Leave the car rolling on the old subframe while you re-build the new one and then swap them over.

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    I would rather find a good subframe as it will be the cheaper option. Pulling the subframe and cleaning it was always going to be part of this job anyway and as I have enough parts to build a complete front end I wouldn't even have to strip any bits off the wagon.

    Do any of the factory manuals have the dimensions of the subframe?

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    Spent a few hours pulling the LPG out today. Anyone after a LPG setup?

    Now I'm left with a giant hole in the boot floor!

    So I'm now looking for,
    • Boot floor
    • Fuel tank
    • Subframe


    I think the best way to get these parts will be to find a rolling shell, just need one at the right price.

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    Hey mate just saw your add on gumtree before reading this. I've got two wagons left over from my build with what your after. I'm on the other side of sa though but if you interested pm me

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