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    Default International AR130 onto HQ tonner chassis

    Figured people here might be interested in this build thread, its something a bit different... I started it about a week or so ago on the ozrodders forum so ill paste you upto date!

    This is my new toy! Ex military AR130, its in pretty decent nic for its age. I picked it because the scene is dominated by fords and chevs and i think these look as mean as any of those.

    This is going to be my daily so i have decided on a rebody onto my tonner chassis (i only got the panels). I have a good running HQ tonner, 308, t700 (soon t5), borg warner LSD that i have already fixed up, so ill use for the base and the focus of the build will be getting the cab to fit well, repairing it, and modifying it. I have not tackled a serious rod build before, just resto and modification on a variety of 60s and 70s machines, so im looking at this as a stepping stone to building a "proper rod".

    I was going to chop and channel but it looks like it will go pretty low already on my already lowered tonner, so ill see how it fits up before doing anything rash, then maybe chop the roof.

    Will probbaly stick with the tray at first, but the plan is to make a styleside rear and make it all look just right

    Long term plans include LS2 motor, 6 speed and maybe a dually diff so i should end up with a truck that looks good, is relatively trouble free, relatively easy to get parts for and handles reasonably well.

    Anyway.... the pics!





    [img]http://www.cosmicradiancehealing.com.au/AR130/DSCF6497 (Small).JPG[/img]
    did some slight body mods and sat it on the HQ chassis... it goes pretty low on it so i dont think ill channel, but the roof is looking painfully high so ill have a go at chopping it





    spent most of the day trying to fix the accident damage... jeez its some tough metal...

    OK so feel free to give you two cents worth on the way im going about things, always keen to do things better

    Some progress today:

    Welded some nuts into my box section im using to mate the cab to the chassis, im only using the front inner mounting points on the HQ chassis and not using the front outer ones... hope this wont cause me a problem later... when i get pre approval i will box the ends of these and paint them









    Pretty exciting stuff eh!

    I measured my daily driver tonner (lowered 2 inches all around) to see how high the chassis was in various places, and chocked this chassis at the same height with some wood blocks.

    Before i mount the cab to the rails i wanted to mount the guards and front end and eyeball it a bit, see if the front and rear mounts might need raising, and check out the overall look so far... I think it looks pretty right

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    Yeah im not sure what ill do with the floor and flywheel yet, rear floor is good, so i could possible use front floor and firewall... I am going to need to do something about a tunnel and the firewall is going to need some modifying to fit the heads on the v8

    Today i mounted the cab to the rails i previously mounted, spend most of the day measuring, measuring and measuring some more, i can only say that inter cabs were not made that square, or HQ chassis wern't, or both... anyway i tacked some flat bar onto the rails to use the original AR front cab mounts



    And i got a piece of 30mm square 3mm wall box section to spanned it across the rear of the cab, put some unneccecary crush tubes into it, welded nuts to it installed it and welded it to my "conversion rails", again mounting it on the original inter cab mounting points





    tomorrow i might think about the roof chop a bit more, or maybe work out how im going to properly mount the front end and look at the inner guards

    Got a new welder, a lot more powerful than my old one... still trying to work out the settings... those welds look awful lol

    So i begun the roof chop today, the roof looks very tall, and i wanted it to look like it is proportionally correct, rather than really low.

    I think its not such a hard cab to chop in the grand theme of things, the sides are almost square and there is a ridge that runs around the back that helps it keep the shape.

    I decided to leave the back window full size and remove the section between the window and the aforementioned ridge.

    Still a lot of finishing to do, including the roof strip.









    Heres how it looks, as compared to the previous pics



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    Very cool....

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    Cool project , I like it !

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    keep it coming, always wanted to do one of these. Have you spoken to an engineer about this yet? I have heard conflicting information about rebodying the HQ-WB, yet you do see a few of these around from time to time. Looking forward to following this closely

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    thanks guys i have not sat down with an engineer yet, with the new engineering scheme it seems very much to be up in the air at the moment so i will look into it when the dust settles in a month or two...

    i spoke briefly to a few a couple of months ago and it seems to be viable, you just have to meet the ADRs the HQ met and maybe a torsion test, so i will have to upgrade the door mechanisms for example. The feeling i got was if i leave the cab stock(ish) and the chassis stock im going to have a lot less hassles, im also trying to use as many of the original mounting points for cab and chassis as possible to save grief. i have considered suiciding the doors but will definitely speak to an engineer before i do that.

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    neat build

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    nice, always wanted to do something like this.
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    Always wondered how much work was in doing something like this keep it coming.....subscribed

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    Gareth keep the pics and info coming. It will be a cool build thread and very informative.

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    love the old inters, gonna look good when its done

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    Cool project bloke the chop looks good, how did you do the A pillars are they leaned back or are you sectioning the roof?
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    This is a fantastic build. With some of what's running around already, some guys i know building rodded 3tonne trucks, is this the next "thing"?

    I hope not. I'd rather they remain a bit different and totally cool.
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    Thanks for the positive feedback guys

    Harrywho, i sectioned the roof, i ummed and arred about it for a while, i decided that leaning the pillars, while looking easy was actually probably as much or more work considering the doors also would have to be sectioned the same. Aesthetically i decided that there is a lot of curves that flow into the pillars which would be disrupted by leaning the pillars and also that the International has a bulbous roof as it is and making it longer would reduce that somewhat

    Fiddly day today... filling in said section in the roof.



    You can see its a bit of a box section with a few lips and curves, first i welded some 2mm plate to the top side of it that isn't seen



    this is the bit i cut out of the pillar, thought i could use the gutter and first curve of it, turns out the curve was a few mm of but i presevered



    and ended up with this!



    this was it all welded in, i did the other side and now i need to do the strip across the top which im realllly goign to have to take my time with, i thought i took my time wih the cut along the back and it still warped a bit... I think ill do a few tacks along it, have a beer and repeat until im drunk and have a warped roof lol
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