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    Default 318 into ute LOTS of questions

    Hey everyone got some questions about putting a 318 in a vj ute (not owned yet) 1. What is the best manual to put behind it 2. what would I have to do to make around 400bhp 3. Can I run dual fuel and make that much HP 4. What diff is best 5. What should I do suspension wise to make it handle decent ( but keep a good height as it will mostly be on dirt roads) 6. What is the best radiator to use ( I live in the middle of NT) 7. What would I have to do to fit it ( all the little bits and pieces) 8. What would I have to budget for all this ( with a reliable drivetrain and decent body/interior)

    As you've probably gathered this is my first build so any bit if help is muchly appreciated. There will be more questions to come

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    Since that model came wit v8s the best thing & cheapest {I think] would be look for a doner vehicle & swap it all out

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    finding a manual would be nigh on impossible tho

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    What's in the car at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussieutelvr View Post
    Hey everyone got some questions about putting a 318 in a vj ute (not owned yet) 1. What is the best manual to put behind it 2. what would I have to do to make around 400bhp 3. Can I run dual fuel and make that much HP 4. What diff is best 5. What should I do suspension wise to make it handle decent ( but keep a good height as it will mostly be on dirt roads) 6. What is the best radiator to use ( I live in the middle of NT) 7. What would I have to do to fit it ( all the little bits and pieces) 8. What would I have to budget for all this ( with a reliable drivetrain and decent body/interior)

    As you've probably gathered this is my first build so any bit if help is muchly appreciated. There will be more questions to come
    1. you could get a conversion for a Tremec 5 speed or a Top loader, but go straight to a 727 automatic with a stallie.. 2. 400HP out of a 318, well you need some ported 360J heads or straight to a set of edelbrock performer alloys with a victor manifold and try to get about 10:1 compression with a solid flat tappet cam etc.. 3 NO, **** the LPG off 4. Ford nine inch or a borg warner 5. get some v8 torsion bars and some quality shocks 6.BEST radiator is take your chances with a V8 copper core or get a chinese alloy one and pay less ..

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    The ute Im looking at has a 265 and auto but the whole car is very rusty and has no grill so I'm thinking maybe I should spend a bit extra up front and one with get a decent body and a 318 already in it also whats wrong with LPG and how much would a top loader conversion cost thnx again

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    If the Val has lots of rust especially in the plenum, A pillar areas I would keep looking for a better one. Not easy to find a 318 ute - not a lot came from the factory like that so you are probably going to be looking for one that someone has already converted. As far as changing to a top loader I wouldn't waste the time or money (you'll need adapter plate, custom tail shaft etc) - if you're going to be tough on it (burnouts, dumping the clutch etc) then neither the single rail or the top loader will really like it- if it is going to be driven with some sense then the standard single rail will cope. If you want decent horsepower and strong enough box then your going to need to go a tremec. Personally I'd go a 727 - I did behind my 408. Will take a lot of abuse.

    By the way, converting from a hemi 6 to small block requires a few parts as well which add up quickly - either a new k frame or the specialist mounts that will take the v8 - neither are cheap. Off set brake booster, extractors, new tail shaft to name a few.
    If it it was me I'd be looking for the best body you can find - if has the 265 then you can make that go bloody quick with simple mods ( intake, head porting, carb, extractors and diff ratio as a start)
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    Alright so heres what I'm thinking..
    Look for a good base to start with then sell what I don't need and buy a Val with the 318 already in it to swap out then get a 727 built (after some reading it seems like its not worth going manual) and im thinking a ford nine inch but not sure... That's all I've got so far still need to figure out brakes, suspension, steering etc another question can you put sequential shift on a 727 (just brainstorming)

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    Brakes - UPC do a front upgrade to a 2 pot caliper if you want more you'll need to go Wilwood. Rear change to discs when redoing diff. But you'll be surprised how well a standard Val will stop if brakes are in good shape.
    Suspension - fairly limited with what you can do on the front as they have a torsion bar set-up (unless you want to spend really big dollars then look up Alterkation for A body from US). Again up can upgrade - get the r/t torsion bars, make sure all the rubbers (not nolathane) are in really good condition, replace shocks with really good ones (Komi adjustable are a popular and good upgrade) and make sure it has a big ass sway bar on the front.
    The rear end is more of a challenge - leaf springs can get an extra leaf - height re-set and decent shocks. But there is so little weight over the rear end it will be some trial and error to get it right.
    Steering - there is a good rack and pinion conversion that is sold by Elko in Melb or PPR in Sydney that come off the K frame.

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    By sequential I'm assuming you want manually operated shifts ?
    904 will be more than ample for a 318 and you'll find one of those pretty easily, the 727 is not as easy to find and has very heavy rotating weight.

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    Hey everyone.... that suspension and brakes setup sounds like more than enough as it will be on dirt roads 98% of the time and yeah that's what I mean by sequential shift and will a 904 take a fair bit of abuse?

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    904 is more than ample for what your going to do with it and a hell of a lot lighter.

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    Thanks I'll look into the 904 ...... Would it be worth bolting on a turbo?
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    What about a more docile version of this



    The little teen that did!!!

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    look for a good clean ute and tinker on the simple things it will be cheaper for you in the long run

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