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    Default Lifters bleeding out 202 HELP!!

    Hey guys so I bought a reasonably clean vh with202 for intended LS swap , not going ,apparently had a 500 Holley on it at some stage
    it had new extractors and upon popping filler cap noticed it had roller rockers and also hei ingnition.
    so I sourced standard carb and proceeded to get it going.
    she fired straight away straight out extractors and idled and ran sweet although very lumpy and loud
    shut it down after couple minutes very happy with my purchase tried to start it after 10 minutes and turn over but nothing ,so started with the obvious spark ,fuel and comp all looked good I did notice fuel sitting in manifold from cranking for quiet a while so I popped rocker cover and a side plate to find the rockers hardly moving and it looks likes the lifters have bleed down and offer no resistance have I run this with no oil pressure mistakenly and bleed the lifters are they some type of lifter that needs to be bleed.
    I know nothing at all about this engine or I fact holden sixes at all!!

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    so you dont no if you have a hydraulic cam or solid cam in it ? if hydraulic cam and it ran fine with out any ticking noises from start id say i wouldnt be them. find top dead centre on number 1 and see if there is any valve lash clearance to see if its a solid cam.

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    There definelty hydraulic it's just that lifters don't have any pressure like you can move rocker up and down on no1 top dead and it's just compressing lifter, lifters are compressing and not opening valves hence fuel pooled up in manifold

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    It wouldn't surprise me if new lifters, roller rockers look brand new, but these lifters pump up with oil pressure yeah???so I shouldn't need to touch them??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wss678 View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if new lifters, roller rockers look brand new, but these lifters pump up with oil pressure yeah???so I shouldn't need to touch them??
    but if it ran fine before it makes no sense at all. if fitted correctly at the start which you wont know people usually let the lifters sit submerged in engine oil over night before fitting them to eng so the fill up with oil, but if they are hydraulic you should not be able to move them at all as the should have about 1/2 to 3/4 to a turn on them so there is no valve lash. or there no good and it needs new lifters. are all 12 the same ?

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    Put it this way engine did seem to run ok for straight out of extractors and unknown old fuel ,but when I popped rocker cover off after trying for ages to restart all rockers lined up parralel perfectly and lifters where compressing instead which makes me consider no oil pressure also fuel sitting/pooling in manifold and yes it makes no sense But I failed to look at oil pressure whilst it was running(yes I know) I will prime pump tomorrow and hope lifters pump up!! Could this be right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wss678 View Post
    Put it this way engine did seem to run ok for straight out of extractors and unknown old fuel ,but when I popped rocker cover off after trying for ages to restart all rockers lined up parralel perfectly and lifters where compressing instead which makes me consider no oil pressure also fuel sitting/pooling in manifold and yes it makes no sense But I failed to look at oil pressure whilst it was running(yes I know) I will prime pump tomorrow and hope lifters pump up!! Could this be right??
    holden 6 hardly ever need to prime the oil pumps, but its a starting point, check oil pump drive gear might of sheard off to cause no oil pressure. also you need to check the rocker posi locks havent come loose or something silly

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    any updates ??

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