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30-04-2009, 08:54 PM #1Newbie
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WTB: Timber ski boat - Seacraft, Syndicate or Rivercraft
hi guys
im looking at buying a timber ski boat either a seacraft, rivercraft or syndicate.
i have owned 8 woodies, have had a fibreglass boat for the past 10 years and now i think its time for another woody.
for those who are not familiar with these boats take a look here www.ssboc.com.au
if anyone knows of any for sale your help would be appreciated or if you own one why not chuck a pick up here
thanks
Allen
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09-05-2009, 11:28 PM #2Senior Member
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hey mate, i can build you a syndicate copy or seacraft. $20g for bare hull.
if ya wanna race im keen to build someone a bullet 1750 copy outta wood with a mercruiser leg. 500hp should do 90mph
brianis lifting the wheels to much to ask??
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10-05-2009, 07:43 PM #3casual poster
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11-05-2009, 09:27 AM #4Senior Member
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dead serous mate, if you can get a syndicate or seacraft why dont you buy one??? im sure when you get a quote you will find out the true price of those hulls.
if you are after a woody for social sking buy a complete one. there is two on ebay at the moment which are nice boats. one is a syndicate with 304 and v drive which would make a great social boat.
to build a new hull takes allot of time and the gaboon ply i use isnt cheap. its light and strong which is what matters. the bullet style hulls i build are more race then social like the seacrafts or syndicates. they arnt designed to go slow.
byvoits at ballarat who run a boat called the clog build hulls also which are great. i think he has built some for social boats so they might be worth a try also. im sure you will be surprised by the expense to buy a bare hull then fit it out with quality gear
good to see ya keen on getting a woody so let me know how ya go
brianis lifting the wheels to much to ask??
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11-05-2009, 09:32 AM #5Senior Member
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if you want a real woody id sell me clinker, fully restored on descent trailer. i'll remove engine and v drive which would allow set up as mid mount or v drive again. its 55 years old but hasnt been in water since rebuild. id want 15g for that but its something that cant be replaced
is lifting the wheels to much to ask??
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11-05-2009, 05:38 PM #6Newbie
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thanks for all the offers guys but i am looking at buying a genuine seacraft,syndicate or rivercraft that has already been built, set up and everything.
if i was going to have a hull built i would have a rivercraft built as he is a very very good family friend. 20 k for an unknown hull is a touch pricey aswell, but each to there own im not saying that your hull is not worth that im just saying that imho when i could buy a rivercraft for that money, thats where my money would be going
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11-05-2009, 08:30 PM #7casual poster
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Just ring around i did
I was after a price on one of these

I was going to do it myself but after a few calls i found i could get one built for a whole lot less hassle than if i had done it myself
Just ask around a couple of chippys you would be amazed what they do in there spare time and most aren't just chippys there is some heads out there that are worth tapping into
And when it comes to wooden boats people do the job like they were building a piece of furniture not a boat so workmanship is the main priority
Structure comes with the plans not the workmanship - workmanship just puts icing on the already pretty cake
So long as you have REAL plans to work from and you don't mind shelling out for a NA to check them $1200 your set
If i was to go ahead today i would expect to pay $100 an hour for the tradesman and 200-250 hours work
So $20,000 is a little conservative in my opinion
You'll defiantly get a boat for $20,000 but you might not put it in you lounge room and eat your dinner off it
Just my opinion
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11-05-2009, 08:46 PM #8casual poster
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11-05-2009, 10:54 PM #9casual poster
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No hassles getting a "NEW" un fitted hull for a lot less than 20k, maybe make a few calls, you could be pleasantly suprised. As far as me buying one, why would i want two? i already have a v drive syndicate which i dont use, but im damn happy about some of the prices thatve been quoted here, as all of a sudden i have an asset, rather than something for the sparrows to crap on.
As far as using a woody as a social boat, mid mount is great, a v drive as far as im concerned, is a dead set waste of time. as you stated "theyre designed to go" i assume your referring to v drive configuration. But be under no illusion, as the owner/driver of one, they have their limitations.
hence, thats why years ago there were a whole lot more woodys around the ski race scene. Most of the guys i know ditched there woody for an everingham/stephens, but now the same blokes have either a connelly or a racecraft, basically if you want to go fast safely, think VERY carefully before bolting big horsepower into a woody.
having said all of that, they do look fantastic.
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12-05-2009, 09:42 AM #10Newbie
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ok i think i should have been more specific when i posted this thread.
i am looking for a mid mount, not a v drive and not a mid mount v drive. i am wanting it for a social boat but i will spec it up a bit so that it is easily capable of 60mph for the club events because if you want to be a top competitior thats where you have to be.
lets get rid of the hate that has started in this thread, this is not what i intented on creating this thread for, it is meant to be for discussing the beauty of these boats.
it is true that there aren't as many around the ski racing scene these days as there used to be but woodies are still pulling 100mph which imo is fast enough lol.
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13-05-2009, 01:39 AM #11Senior Member
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hey guys,
good to see some different opinions about woodys. there is huge interest in them still as yas would know. i cant say ive got a bad vibe from people in this thread, just opinions.
id agree that river crafts are an awesome boat. i know a guy who has just got his after four years of waiting for it to be built. peter ad**** builds awesome boats but these days people dont want to wait. if you know him personally id be trying to jump the que and get one built.
i know 7 years ago he said his hulls are around the 12g mark bare so it would have to have gone up since then.
in regards to the hulls im building they are just built for ski racing purposes. our first one should be fitted out this year with mercruiser alpha leg and small block chev.
i cant say i know of many woodys doing 100mph but id sure love to. the quikest ive seen is lenny retallics " cinders" which is good for abit over 90mph i think.
lewis : i hope ya can find a good woody at a nice price. id expect to pay around 10-15g for a mickey mouse one thats ready to go. a mid mount woody that does 60mph will be awesome and will take some grunt to do it. be great fun though. another wooden boat site that im associated with is www.cawpba.com which is all related to classic wooden power boats. clinkers mainly but a few bond woods are involved. i hope you find something that suits ya needs. the seacraft club would be a great place to start.
see yas on the water
brianis lifting the wheels to much to ask??
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13-05-2009, 11:10 AM #12casual poster
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Buy the plans and have one built for you the way you want it
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13-03-2010, 01:06 PM #13
Hi
My mate has a rivercraft 17.6", its less motor. 2003model, all running gear less motor, fresh varnish, imaculate boat, fully inclosed trailer, boat cover. located in moama.
$16,000
phone.
0411666970
0354802280
greame
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13-03-2010, 10:39 PM #14Senior Member
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hey mate, thanks for the reply, its been a while since the thread was launched. im currently building a clinker and then im gna build a brand new v bottom bondwood for racing.
kingswood is a bloody nice boat and he should have much drama selling it, was good to see it at the s80
brianis lifting the wheels to much to ask??
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18-03-2010, 08:56 PM #15Newbie
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Hi raced with kingswood s80 and robinvale in my syndicate lovely boat why the sale should sell easy
Kris
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