spool legalities - Aussie V8 | Holden - Ford

PRO-GMH · 03-01-2009, 10:11 PM

Lads,

As far as I am aware mini spools are very illegal.

I had a mate trying to tell me that they were infact legal and told me to 'find proof that theyre not'. So I went on a search and couldnt find a single piece of information regarding it in any roadworthy regs or modification guidelines!!
The only thing it mentioned in regards to axels was that there is to be no welding of that sort of stuff.

So if you got done for having a spool could you get out of it if they cant show you where it says that they are illegal? It mentions nothing of both axels being locked at once.

Brett

mark · 03-01-2009, 10:58 PM

spools are illegal as they lock the back axles, causing the wheels to go the same speed while turning a corner, causing one of them to hop/skid. This increases your chances of loosing control.

a god lsd with tight cones will give a nice "spooled" effect, without being illegal.

PRO-GMH · 03-01-2009, 11:15 PM

I know... but you didnt answer my question. Pitty LSD's cant handle big power.

TuffXR · 03-01-2009, 11:24 PM

No there not. I have never heard of anyone I know getting done for one. Hell I used to do contract work for Vic roads and never heard of. There is nothing in any law or rule book that says they are illegal or other wise that I have read on it.

All of my book work for my road worthy licence never had anything either now I think about it.

PRO-GMH · 03-01-2009, 11:32 PM

Thats what im getting at.

There is no mention of diff centres, lockers, spools, locked axles or anything to do with it mentioned anywhere.
The closest thing that comes near it mentions that axles cannot be welded.

No rwc tester would legitimately give you a roady on a mini spool anyway because theyre generally thought to be illegal... but it makes me think that if you cant find any information on it and even the tester not being able to show you... is it illegal?

wabbit · 03-01-2009, 11:40 PM

what state are you in, PRO-GMHÇ

TuffXR · 03-01-2009, 11:41 PM

They have to show you if asked, they have to supply you with written info on any defect if asked for, and the ownes is on them to prove it so.

PRO-GMH · 03-01-2009, 11:45 PM

wabbit, Victoria.

vicroads.vic.gov.au

PRO-GMH · 03-01-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuffXR

They have to show you if asked, they have to supply you with written info on any defect if asked for, and the ownes is on them to prove it so.

Is that the roadworthy tester or the person issuing a defect?

TRIKHQ · 03-01-2009, 11:48 PM

JUst for reference if anyone is looking for guidelines

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...340/0/VSI8.pdf

beeb · 04-01-2009, 12:24 AM

Can't the rozzers do you for as little as chirping your wheels nowadays (discretionary i know, but...)? So chirpy-chirpy round a corner could equal a big fat fine from the local wallopers.

Though i'd like to know more about those God LSD's mark!

Sound good! lol

greenhj · 04-01-2009, 12:28 AM

fail...(to your ill informed mate)

vsi 8 clause 3.3 plainly states an acceptable modification not requiring certification would not "cause adverse handling characteristics"

Try explaining the spools virtue to an engineer lol..

I realise its a bit vague, but thats the point, it covers everything that prickroads consider "adverse" regarding suspension, driveline etc.

This then puts the onus on you and your engineer to prove the legitimacy of the mod.

greenhj · 04-01-2009, 12:31 AM

shit, trik posted a link straight to it, ive been rummaging around in piles of fkn paper half the night

TuffXR · 04-01-2009, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhj

shit, trik posted a link straight to it, ive been rummaging around in piles of fkn paper half the night

Dont you hate it when people do that

TRIKHQ · 04-01-2009, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhj

shit, trik posted a link straight to it, ive been rummaging around in piles of fkn paper half the night

Sorry mate I was a bit slow off the mark.

I keep it in my favorites so quick to find.

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03-01-2009, 10:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
mark Your friendly admin Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brisbane Ride: Posts: 8,565	spools are illegal as they lock the back axles, causing the wheels to go the same speed while turning a corner, causing one of them to hop/skid. This increases your chances of loosing control. a god lsd with tight cones will give a nice "spooled" effect, without being illegal.

03-01-2009, 11:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
PRO-GMH Part of the furniture Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bronx Ride: monaro coupe 350 Posts: 997	I know... but you didnt answer my question. Pitty LSD's cant handle big power.

03-01-2009, 11:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
TuffXR casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Ride: 1967 XR Fairmont Posts: 99	No there not. I have never heard of anyone I know getting done for one. Hell I used to do contract work for Vic roads and never heard of. There is nothing in any law or rule book that says they are illegal or other wise that I have read on it. All of my book work for my road worthy licence never had anything either now I think about it.

03-01-2009, 11:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
PRO-GMH Part of the furniture Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bronx Ride: monaro coupe 350 Posts: 997	Thats what im getting at. There is no mention of diff centres, lockers, spools, locked axles or anything to do with it mentioned anywhere. The closest thing that comes near it mentions that axles cannot be welded. No rwc tester would legitimately give you a roady on a mini spool anyway because theyre generally thought to be illegal... but it makes me think that if you cant find any information on it and even the tester not being able to show you... is it illegal?

03-01-2009, 11:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
TuffXR casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Ride: 1967 XR Fairmont Posts: 99	They have to show you if asked, they have to supply you with written info on any defect if asked for, and the ownes is on them to prove it so.

03-01-2009, 11:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
PRO-GMH Part of the furniture Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bronx Ride: monaro coupe 350 Posts: 997	wabbit, Victoria. vicroads.vic.gov.au

04-01-2009, 12:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
beeb Car Tragic... Trade Rating: (6) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, VIC Ride: HZ Wagon Posts: 1,414	Can't the rozzers do you for as little as chirping your wheels nowadays (discretionary i know, but...)? So chirpy-chirpy round a corner could equal a big fat fine from the local wallopers. Though i'd like to know more about those God LSD's mark! Sound good! lol

04-01-2009, 12:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
greenhj not to be trusted Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: melbourne Ride: vz crewman, vs wag, the green one, EH prem soon. Posts: 1,939	fail...(to your ill informed mate) vsi 8 clause 3.3 plainly states an acceptable modification not requiring certification would not "cause adverse handling characteristics" Try explaining the spools virtue to an engineer lol.. I realise its a bit vague, but thats the point, it covers everything that prickroads consider "adverse" regarding suspension, driveline etc. This then puts the onus on you and your engineer to prove the legitimacy of the mod.

04-01-2009, 12:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
greenhj not to be trusted Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: melbourne Ride: vz crewman, vs wag, the green one, EH prem soon. Posts: 1,939	shit, trik posted a link straight to it, ive been rummaging around in piles of fkn paper half the night

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