beeb

G'day boys,
I was just wondering about this one as a hypothetical. If I bought a HQ and pulled the ID tags off it and put them on a HZ would the HZ technically become a HQ? My logic was that (to my knowledge) you could pull the HZ RTS half chassis (i'm thinking sedan/wagon) and install it to a Q so that car would become a HQ with a HZ chassis, so effectively if you just swapped the tags it would appear the same. What does everyone reckon? Is there a VIN number or something i'm missing?
Feel free to correct me, i'm ok with electrics/mechanicals but i'm not super proficient on the factory release details of every car. hehe.
Tim. =)

hq74

this is called re-birthing.....illegal

hq74

why would you want to do this anyway ?

beeb

Ok, should have pointed out i'm not planning to do this i was just thinking out loud...
I was thinking of it because i will have to buy a HQ or a torry, something pre-emissions because my motor is missing a lot of the emissions stuff. Can you legally put the HZ chassis into the HQ to get the benifits of the RTS (that's what i hope to do).

76lxhatch

Some (not all) had a chassis number stamped in the front of the driver's side rail which matches with the tags

76lxhatch

but hypothetically who would notice...?

Ugly Ash

some?? is that a Kiwi thing? every car I have ever owned has had a chassis number, how would you get away with this?
swapping the front clip over is not the problem here dude, the issue would lie in you swapping the tags that identify your car body. as hq74 said, this is rebirthing and is very illegal, jailtime illegal. just buy a q or torrie and leave it at that. you can get them to handle anyway.

__________________
not looking for a big block chev any more!!

76lxhatch

I'm not sure if its a kiwi thing or not, could well be. They all have numbers, just that some of them only had them on the tags, not stamped on the chassis as well. Are you saying that (for example) you guys can't fix a car with a rusted out chassis by replacing it? Sounds dumb to me

beeb

Ok, once again i wasn't planning on doing this, and when i bring in a few more pay checks i'll be hunting for a HQ sedan/wagon. So if anyone is looking to part with a neatish rolling shell that left the factory with a V8, i could be interested soon.
Oh, and I wasn't saying hypothetical as "wink-wink, nudge-nugde", i meant it to mean hypothetical. But since the debate is now beginning to rage couldn't you technically be accused of re-birthing a car if you tucked a different chassis under your car?
I should clarify my question though, can you install a RTS HZ chassis under a HQ LEGALLY? I like my cars to be completely within the laws (except maybe for too low ) and as i have already rebushed the entire car and fitted new springs and shocks, i'd be happier if i could just swap the working good condition chassis under whatever HQ i buy to replace it.

hq74

RTS front end......its over rated you just gotta relax and go with the body roll

I drive a Landcruiser every day.

so i find the handeling of the HQ awesome

But yes it's sh!t compared to todays cars

30mm front stabiliser, rear stabiliser and firm springs is all you need

76lxhatch

Legalities and difficulties aside, that's blatantly untrue, the RTS front end is a huge improvement and no amount of roll bars, bushes etc can get a pre-RTS chassis to handle as well

hq74

Im not 100% some one may be able to correct me

but i THINK their may be a way to do it through Vicroads so long as both cars are legaly owned..........im not sure, like i said i THINK

beeb

The guy i bought my HZ off, had had both and definately recommened RTS to me (he's a mate, and i pestered him into selling his car to me, so he wasn't just trying to get my cash )

hq74

lol yes i know that, but like i said when you drive a raised landcruiser everyday ........

beeb

Ok, i wasn't planning on it, but heck if i could legally that'd be an easy way out, i'd just buy a wrecked HQ wagon, and taa-daa! Magic!