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paterson02 · 10-02-2008, 01:51 PM

is it legal for a station wagon to have the rear cargo windows and tailgate window removed and replaced with sheet steel as in pano style for a xe wagon

hs(cott)v · 10-02-2008, 04:00 PM

i wouldnt think the back window would be, not sure about the side windows

JA5ONS · 10-02-2008, 04:05 PM

it's been done before, and registed, rwcd in vic.
im not sure on the legal side... engineers cert and that shit

paterson02 · 10-02-2008, 05:12 PM

shouldn't affect structural integrety in any way and all that but was concerned about the law on visibility and all the other stuff that comes up by doing it all

paterson02 · 12-02-2008, 03:05 PM

but does any one have a definative answer on the legalities thanx so far thou

dr.legal · 13-02-2008, 08:13 PM

Can't see a problem with the side windows. The rear one could open a can of worms. I know there are food vans that have them painted out but that is for a particular reason. There's an earlier thread here about dark tinted windows but I CBF looking at the moment.

doc

JA5ONS · 13-02-2008, 08:23 PM

Tinted windows on ute canopies?
?

paterson02 · 14-02-2008, 06:07 PM

my understanding of the other thread is im allowed to paint out or fill it but not tint it is every one else the same

SS_FIFTY · 14-02-2008, 09:52 PM

You will be able to block them out completely, as long as both your side mirrors provide enough visibility to warrant not being able to use the rear vision mirror.

SSLX76 · 21-02-2008, 08:13 PM

Hows this any different to a panelvan with curtains on the back window or a dark tinted window.

JA5ONS · 21-02-2008, 08:24 PM

I was thinking the same thing, but an old school wagon with blinds...
(good to see another local

)

SSLX76 · 23-02-2008, 01:20 PM

When I get back to work in one week I will check with the engineers at work ( Vicroads) for you, but from an enforcement point, I wouldnt look at you, I really cant see any ADRs that you would affect, will get back to you in a week on an answer, a good point made is that Food transport vehicles have them blocked out and dont require any certification, cheers.

SSLX76 · 13-03-2008, 08:21 PM

Hi Guys, spoke to two light vehicle engineers at work today ( Vicroads) and this is there answer, you can remove the rear windows in a wagon and fill the space with metal of equal or greater thickness than is used in the car, you can remove the rear tailgate window and replace this the same as long as you have a left and right exterior mirrors fitted, they also made the comment that you cannot tint the factory windows black, ( opens a hole can of worms regarding food transport vehicles), but they assured me as you are not reducing the structural strenght of the factory wagon by replacing with steel panels it would not require a VASS in Vic, hope this helps you, cheers SSLX76.

paterson02 · 16-03-2008, 10:41 AM

thanks a ton sslx76 was exactly the answer i was lookin for

PRO-GMH · 17-03-2008, 03:54 PM

In that case then can you tint the rear window of a car as dark as you want?

10-02-2008, 01:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
paterson02 Into it all Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Frankston Ride: VX Senator Signature Series One Posts: 197	removing windows is it legal for a station wagon to have the rear cargo windows and tailgate window removed and replaced with sheet steel as in pano style for a xe wagon

10-02-2008, 04:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
hs(cott)v Dain bramaged Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Noosa QLD Ride: vk berlina Posts: 557	i wouldnt think the back window would be, not sure about the side windows __________________ A friend of mine once sent me a post card with a picture of the entire planet Earth taken from space. On the back it said, "Wish you were here." heaps of vk parts going cheap click here http://www.aussiev8.com.au/sale-items/15588-vk-parts.html

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JA5ONS Year 12 Graduated :) Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Traralgon (Glengarry), Eastern Victoria. Ride: VS Ute Posts: 2,579	it's been done before, and registed, rwcd in vic. im not sure on the legal side... engineers cert and that shit __________________ Bundy & Coke, now cheaper than petrol: drink, don't drive.

13-02-2008, 08:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
dr.legal Part of the furniture Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Eltham, Victoria Ride: VX Commy Posts: 1,468	Can't see a problem with the side windows. The rear one could open a can of worms. I know there are food vans that have them painted out but that is for a particular reason. There's an earlier thread here about dark tinted windows but I CBF looking at the moment. doc __________________ No matter where you go, there you are.

13-02-2008, 08:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
JA5ONS Year 12 Graduated :) Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Traralgon (Glengarry), Eastern Victoria. Ride: VS Ute Posts: 2,579	Tinted windows on ute canopies? ? __________________ Bundy & Coke, now cheaper than petrol: drink, don't drive.

10-02-2008, 05:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
paterson02 Into it all Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Frankston Ride: VX Senator Signature Series One Posts: 197	shouldn't affect structural integrety in any way and all that but was concerned about the law on visibility and all the other stuff that comes up by doing it all

12-02-2008, 03:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
paterson02 Into it all Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Frankston Ride: VX Senator Signature Series One Posts: 197	but does any one have a definative answer on the legalities thanx so far thou

14-02-2008, 06:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
paterson02 Into it all Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Frankston Ride: VX Senator Signature Series One Posts: 197	my understanding of the other thread is im allowed to paint out or fill it but not tint it is every one else the same

14-02-2008, 09:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
SS_FIFTY Limited Edition Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stanthorpe Ride: VU SS Fifty Posts: 343	You will be able to block them out completely, as long as both your side mirrors provide enough visibility to warrant not being able to use the rear vision mirror. __________________ Putting the Senual back in non-consensual

21-02-2008, 08:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
SSLX76 Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newborough Ride: Hj Sandman, Triumph 955I Daytona Posts: 22	Hows this any different to a panelvan with curtains on the back window or a dark tinted window.

21-02-2008, 08:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
JA5ONS Year 12 Graduated :) Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Traralgon (Glengarry), Eastern Victoria. Ride: VS Ute Posts: 2,579	I was thinking the same thing, but an old school wagon with blinds... (good to see another local ) __________________ Bundy & Coke, now cheaper than petrol: drink, don't drive.

23-02-2008, 01:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
SSLX76 Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newborough Ride: Hj Sandman, Triumph 955I Daytona Posts: 22	When I get back to work in one week I will check with the engineers at work ( Vicroads) for you, but from an enforcement point, I wouldnt look at you, I really cant see any ADRs that you would affect, will get back to you in a week on an answer, a good point made is that Food transport vehicles have them blocked out and dont require any certification, cheers.

13-03-2008, 08:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
SSLX76 Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newborough Ride: Hj Sandman, Triumph 955I Daytona Posts: 22	Hi Guys, spoke to two light vehicle engineers at work today ( Vicroads) and this is there answer, you can remove the rear windows in a wagon and fill the space with metal of equal or greater thickness than is used in the car, you can remove the rear tailgate window and replace this the same as long as you have a left and right exterior mirrors fitted, they also made the comment that you cannot tint the factory windows black, ( opens a hole can of worms regarding food transport vehicles), but they assured me as you are not reducing the structural strenght of the factory wagon by replacing with steel panels it would not require a VASS in Vic, hope this helps you, cheers SSLX76.

16-03-2008, 10:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
paterson02 Into it all Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Frankston Ride: VX Senator Signature Series One Posts: 197	thanks a ton sslx76 was exactly the answer i was lookin for

17-03-2008, 03:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
PRO-GMH Senior Member Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bronx Ride: monaro coupe 350 Posts: 673	In that case then can you tint the rear window of a car as dark as you want?

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