Turismo_Monaro

Come see some truely awesome Muscle Cars, original looking not blown. 30th of October is the date and Eastern Creek is the place. Show and shine, parade laps and the like is a happening. My beast will be there, come and see the glory!!

LECoupe

For any one interested, there is a write up of this event in the latest Australian Muscle Car magazine (Jan/Feb 06). There is one picture of special interest to yours truly.

DVLMUNROCV8

Just saw the article. Great photo. The photo caption and editorial are a pretty good incentive to keep an original car original although I can't see something other than a "Bathurst" or racing pedigree classic attracting anywhere near the sums they are quoting for a Phase 111 HO in the editorial ($350K).

I still can't understand why the Munros aren't held in as high regard as the Fords of the period, they did win 2 years running, when they were the factory choice. I guess that's just my prejudices coming through.

phoenix

i think its cos of the whole holden vs ford thingy, more people like holdens and they are more readily available
and i think there are less of the fords than the holdens, as because holdens was the favour, they made more

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LECoupe

Look at it this way Pete: If you ever get a hankering to own the ultimate old Munro, it should cost about a third of the price of that HO, and the huge bonus is you don't have to drive a Ford afterwards!

Turismo_Monaro

*roeow* LECoupster lol. Hate to be a ford owner lol

DVLMUNROCV8

Pheonix,
I do believe you are right and I don't know why I didn't reason that out myself although there is that mystique of having the then "fastest production car in the world" to go with the 'HO. I hate to admit this but I do still like the look of them and the "Cobra" hardtops.

However, Andrew my ultimate old time Holden would have to be an LJ XU-1, as much as I love the old munros and admire their racing heritage, the old Torana gets the chocolates, something about those "David and Goliath" battles, followed closely by the A9X. As far as Fords go and I am sure I'll get flamed for this, they do make a Holden look soooo good.

wabbit

actually, the E49 charger had that title.

the E49s consistantly had an E.T of 14.1 opposed to the HOs 14.2

in only one test did the HO return an elapsed quarter mile time of 14.1

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DVLMUNROCV8

Yeah, I forgot about the Charger, still a quick car in anyone's language. Apart from modern vehicle dynamics, held its own in a comparo with other Aussie hot 6s in Motor mag a couple of months back.

86berlina

I read on the net ages ago that the E49 charger consistantly ran 14.4's all day long.

Having said that the article then went on to say that on modern day rubber chargers built to exact E49 specs today run 13.8's - 13.9's.

Will find the article if i can.

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86berlina

Update : Found the site.

http://www.valiant.org/charger.html

Here a couple of things quoted from the site.



Did the Holden Commodore really beat the Chysler Valiant E49 Charger?
Some have said the E49 Charger's long-standing record as the fastest Australian production car across the 1/4 mile by the Holden Special Vehicles GTS-R (Commodore, 5.7 Litre, stroked version of Holden's Aussie 5.0 litre), which was clocked at 14.3 seconds (the figures for the E49 usually quoted are 14.4 seconds; a dubious-accuracy 14.1 figure can be beaten by the "Blueprint" GTS-R which can do 14 flat).

Gary Bridger set us straight:

The June 1997 issue of Australia's Motor magazine did a comparison between Australia's greatest muscle cars from 1971 on, including the GTS-R and E49. Despite being the only six in the group, the 25 year old Valiant Charger E49 was still the fastest and marginally quicker than the GTS-R to 100 kph and through the quarter. The figures used for the E49 were based on 1972 road tests, 0-100 kph 6.1 seconds and 14.4 seconds for the quarter. The GTS-R was quoted as 0-100 kph 6.2 seconds and 14.45 for the quarter.

To add salt into GM and Ford's wounds, stock standard E49s on modern rubber have quite easily broken the 14 second barrier for the quarter. Jim Little has done a 13.8 quarter in his and another of our club cars won a production prize at a major drag meeting with a 13.9 quarter. A previous owner took my E49 to a sprint meeting and was doing 14.1 quarters on old wide oval tires, limiting the car to 5000 rpm (redline 6500) and in a howling headwind! A Ferrari owner who couldn't match those times was absolutely horrified when he discovered that the Charger had a Valiant 6 under the bonnet! An unmodified standard production Valiant 6 at that.


The Valiant E49 Charger is still the fastest (in a straight line) production car ever made in Australia, with an et of 14.4sec. Don't let any Ford or GM person tell you differently!


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