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    hi its been a long time since i built a roll cage to spec.

    can you still build a cage to design spec using mild steel tube or has andra changed what they require as i contacted them and they said ill need to buy the book to find out lol

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    My cage is mild steel.
    That has past a recent teck inspection.
    In rule book it does mention,
    Roll bar/s 41.3mm dia tube wall thickness 2.9mm mild steel
    Side/cross bars 31.8mm dia tube wall thickness 1.9mm mild steel,
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    From the ANDRA website under 2013 rule changes -

    Rollcage materials
    ERW tubing will be no longer permitted for use in manufacturing roll cages on all new structures
    built after December 31, 2012. Only Cold Drawn Welded Mild Steel (CDW), Cold Drawn Seamless
    (CDS) or 4130 Chrome-Moly will be acceptable.
    Powder coating is an accepted form of surface treatment.

    You will still need to grab a rule book to see what the minimum thicknesses are but.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gem8 View Post
    hi its been a long time since i built a roll cage to spec.

    can you still build a cage to design spec using mild steel tube or has andra changed what they require as i contacted them and they said ill need to buy the book to find out lol
    So you cant afford to pay the $20 to get the current rule book ?????

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    No not at all bent 8 im going of what they told me.

    im pretty sure the $20 is for current members for a replacment book i contacted them they told me they dont know of hand but there has been some changes reguarding types of material
    however i would need to be a member of andra and pay for the book they also told me there is some thing i would need to pay called a injured driver levey ? com on are they serious

    im just chasing some info here thats all not here to dig or bag anyone out or organisation for that matter

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    1 & 3/4" 12 gauge or 1 & 5/8'' 10 gauge

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    Quote Originally Posted by gem8 View Post
    No not at all bent 8 im going of what they told me.

    im pretty sure the $20 is for current members for a replacment book i contacted them they told me they dont know of hand but there has been some changes reguarding types of material
    however i would need to be a member of andra and pay for the book they also told me there is some thing i would need to pay called a injured driver levey ? com on are they serious

    im just chasing some info here thats all not here to dig or bag anyone out or organisation for that matter
    Last year when I had my license had to pay for TV levy.As if they will put my car on tv.Big joke.
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    $44 andra membership which will get you the old book and apparently new one coming in the next few months.. l posted my application form last week , l too was trying to get the details about roll cages.

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    thet are friggen good arnt they we must be the most taxed country in the world tv levey lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncs View Post
    From the ANDRA website under 2013 rule changes -

    Rollcage materials
    ERW tubing will be no longer permitted for use in manufacturing roll cages on all new structures
    built after December 31, 2012. Only Cold Drawn Welded Mild Steel (CDW), Cold Drawn Seamless
    (CDS) or 4130 Chrome-Moly will be acceptable.
    Powder coating is an accepted form of surface treatment.

    You will still need to grab a rule book to see what the minimum thicknesses are but.
    is the cdw mild steel type the type that midalia steel sell as they have told me there think wall tube isw supplied to some local workshops for them to make roll cages ?

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    Hmmmm not sure mate, that'd be a question for a boilermaker / fabricator i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by gem8 View Post
    is the cdw mild steel type the type that midalia steel sell as they have told me there think wall tube isw supplied to some local workshops for them to make roll cages ?
    ANDRA spec roll cages?

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    If you need to buy your tubing from the east coast, i have used both of these.

    Andrews Race Cars

    Motorsport Rollcage steel Pipe & Tube - Racetech Steel

    If you give Rod Andrews a call he is pretty helpful and should answer your questions, and will be able to sell you the correct tubing.

    I think from memory the minimum tubing size is 1 5/8 x 2.6mm for the main hoop and front tubes but the rear stays depends on the length and number of them. I have alwaysused 1 3/4 tube as that is the size dies i have for my tube bender.The door bars need to be the same tubing as the main hoop aswell, whatever you end up using.

    Cheers, Al.

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    well im sure they are selling the same cdw tube that midalia have

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    as long as this spec below in cdw is met, you are right to go

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    1 & 3/4" 12 gauge or 1 & 5/8'' 10 gauge

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