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    Default V8 on P Plates: Full P plate rules - Victoria

    After a heap of constant discussion, I'm going to write this down.
    The following relates to VICTORIA only, and is to be used as guidance information only.

    Written: 05/07/09
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    If replying with any form of correction, or new information, please state (and link) where the information came from. Be sure that it has been written into legislation, NOT just "Plans"


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    If you acquired your Victorian Probationary license (P Plates)

    BEFORE July 1 2007

    -You must have a BAC (Blood Alcohol Content) of 0.0 at all times
    -You may drive anything with less than 125kw/tonne and 3.5l/tonne- If the vehicle breaches both of those restrictions you may NOT drive it, however if just one restriction is breached, you may drive the car
    -You may drive V8, turbo & supercharged vehicles as long as they meet the restrictions above

    Between July 1 2007 & June 30 2008

    -You must have a BAC (Blood Alcohol Content) of 0.0 at all times
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 125kw/tonne
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 3.5l/tonne
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 6 cylinders
    -You must NOT drive anything with a turbocharger
    -You must NOT drive anything with a supercharger
    -You must NOT drive anything with modifications to improve the engine performance

    After (and including) July 1 2008
    For the first year after obtaining your probationary license you will have a "Probationary P1 License"
    During your time on the Probationary P1 License you must abide by the following:

    -You must have a BAC (Blood Alcohol Content) of 0.0 at all times
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 125kw/tonne
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 3.5l/tonne
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 6 cylinders
    -You must NOT drive anything with a turbocharger
    -You must NOT drive anything with a supercharger
    - You may drive:
    -Turbocharged or supercharged diesel powered cars (without engine performance modifications)
    -Nominated vehicles with low powered turbocharged or supercharged engines, including Suzuki Cappucino 2D Cabriolet Turbo 3 cylinder 689cc, Daihatsu Copen L880 2D Convertible 4 cylinder 659cc
    -All models of the Smart car, produced by Mercedes Benz.
    -You must NOT use mobile phone in ANY way, including hands free
    -You must NOT tow a trailer, unless for work or under instruction
    -You must NOT drive with more than one passenger aged 16-20 (and including) - Unless they are immediate family (brother, sister, wife, husband)
    -Any license suspension, drink driving offense with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) up to 0.05, or drug driving offense will result in an extension of the P1 license period for six months, plus the period of suspension.
    -Drink driving offenders may have an alcohol interlock fitted to their vehicle
    -You must NOT drive anything with modifications to improve the engine performance
    -Must clearly display RED P plates

    Pending a good driving record (basically, not losing your license), after the first 12 months of having a probationary license, you will then graduate to a "Probationary P2 License".
    At this point you have a slightly relaxed set of rules, which are:


    -You must have a BAC (Blood Alcohol Content) of 0.0 at all times
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 125kw/tonne
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 3.5l/tonne
    -You must NOT drive anything with MORE than 6 cylinders
    -You must NOT drive anything with a turbocharger
    -You must NOT drive anything with a supercharger
    -You must NOT drive anything with modifications to improve the engine performance
    - You may drive:
    -Turbocharged or supercharged diesel powered cars (without engine performance modifications)
    -Nominated vehicles with low powered turbocharged or supercharged engines, including Suzuki Cappucino 2D Cabriolet Turbo 3 cylinder 689cc, Daihatsu Copen L880 2D Convertible 4 cylinder 659cc
    -All models of the Smart car, produced by Mercedes Benz.
    -Drink driving offenders may have an alcohol interlock fitted to their vehicle
    -Any license suspension will result in an extension of the P2 period by six months, plus the period of suspension.
    -You must clearly display GREEN P plates
    -You now may tow, have as many passengers as the car may legally hold, and may use a hands free mobile phone

    This "P2" license must be held for 36 months (3 years) until graduating to a "Full" drivers license. (yes, till your 22)

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    Breach these rules, and face anything from a 119 fine up to 3 points
    & $1000+ fine

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    The obvious question is "How can I drive a V8 legally?"

    There are multiple ways to legally drive a V8 on your P's such as reasons for work or family.
    If you must drive a V8, you must be prepared to go through the process of getting an exemption, this always happens by approaching Vicroads and applying.
    It is common that employees will receive a letter from their employer stating that they are required to drive the company car.
    An example of this, the local bricklayer has a VZ SS company car, that the employees drive to and from job sites. It is common that Vicroads will grant you an exemption to drive the car.
    If there is no genuine need to drive the high powered vehicle, then don't.
    As new drivers, we don't know as much as we think, I'm sure that many people on here could say that they did some things as young drivers, that there is no way in hell they would do, after having the experiences they have over many years of driving.
    There are other ways to get an exemption for driving a V8, but hell, I'm not going to sit here and type you a recipe for your premature death.


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    References:
    Arrive Alive > A Victorian Government Program
    Graduated Licensing System | Helping young drivers be safer drivers - Home
    Graduated Licensing System | Helping young drivers be safer drivers - THE NEW RULES IN DETAIL
    High powered vehicle restrictions that apply if you obtained your probationary licence before 1 July 2007 | Arrive Alive

    Vicroads > The Victorian roads & traffic authority
    VicRoads : VicRoads
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    Thanks Ja5ons, that was informative.

    Finally one of us took the initiative to actually go and post up the facts, rather than squabble over our own ideas.

    Also, its true that I would like to drive a V8, but I'm not after huge power or anything, a 253 or even a 308 is hardly a high powered engine these days. V6 commodores are well within my budget and are probably twice as fast and more powerful than the old 253s and 308s, but its not so much speed and power that I'm really after. (although they are nice too )

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    That is a nice guide, definetly helpfull to the younger drivers!

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    Without doin the maths, can they drive a 253 powered One Tonner?

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    who is "they"

    jo3, i know what you mean. Its a load of crap really, I had to sell my VB SLE with a 253 that sounded mean, but piss weak. So i bought a VS Ecotec ute with twice as much power.. go figure... Vicroads have got it so wrong.
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    if you want to cheat the rules and drive a v8 the simplest way is to register it in your bosses name and have a hand written letter in the glovebox saying it is your work ute... don't drive like a @#%$ wit no burnouts or drag racing and theres not a thing they can do about it i've been doing it since february 08'
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    so, haven't been pulled up yet?

    or did you just neglect to mention that you have the exemption?
    If a man says something in a forest, and his wife isn't there to hear him................is he still wrong?

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    i don't have the exemption. far as the law is concerned it's a company car and thats that... easiest way to do it just make sure your boss wont screw you over
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    ah, I see you aren't actually in the state to which this thread pertains.

    best you check your rules and apply for that exemption, though
    http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/reso...nal_jun_09.pdf
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    would anyone know where i could find a list of the low powered turbo cars that you're alowed to drive?
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    Honestly mate, I wouldn't waste your time..........the low-powered turbo cars are exactly that - low-powered.

    Like tiny shitty little cars like the smart for-two and crap like that.


    However, I would imagine that Vicroads have the list published on their website - stands to reason.

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    i have a victorian license.. it's the way to do it and if you dont drive like an idiot you'll be fine. i just work in toowoomba.
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    well here in qld, we are not allowed any v8 .. plus every p plater has a 200kw limit. and u can not have any major engine mods done.. a cold air intake is the biggest mod allowed until we are 21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damian View Post
    That is a nice guide, definetly helpfull to the younger drivers!

    Cheers
    I think so to BUT most of the young people cannot read and it would be someone else at fault anyway regards Pat.

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    I have another P Plate restriction question. Can a new Vic P Plater drive a HQ one tonner that has a standard VP 3.8 V6 in it? The car has been engineered, roadworthyed etc and is legally registered in Victoria with the engine change.

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