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Old 07-09-2008, 07:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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in another thread, the poster mentioned a trimatic mated to a chev engine

i've just had a tough tri built for my 308, but have plans to put a 350 chev in the ute in the future

now i've got the turbo 400 box, crossmember, driveshaft, speedo cable, shifter etc

BUT IT WOULD BE A SHITLOAD EASIER TO USE SAID TRIMATIC

so, is it feasible to mate the tri to a mild 350 on dual fuel ...
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so if anyone's done this, can ya let us in on the bear traps and honey pots i'll come across ???

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Old 07-09-2008, 10:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you will need to redrill the block or get an adapter plate to bolt the box to the engine, just get a turbo350,heaps better box.
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To redrill block i was told you had to dismantle engine to bare block by a place that does it in sydney.

Adaptor kit from dellow,$200 ish kinda frowned upon doing it that way.

Or the nicest & most expensive way...torquepower bellhousing.

You can get a good trimatic built to take 400-450(?) for reasonable money BUT for same amouny a th350 will take 500hp,th400 will take even more if built right on the standard internals.
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Torquepower bellhousing would be the best option, if you insist on keeping the Trimatic.

about $650 last time I checked
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$650 = half the cost of a decent 350....sell the traumatic
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YEP, but its a 450-500hp box which i picked up this morning from the rebuilder, about $1000, so not about to onsell it just yet

i'm just exploring my options for the future atm ...
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that tri will more likely max out at 450 dude,even then it will start to struggle in time if you have an engine that will in the real world make 400hp...was around same price i got & advised that if the motor does make over 400 then really should use a th350...i did want the want to use a trimatic but vfm & common sense won out.
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YEP, but its a 450-500hp box which i picked up this morning from the rebuilder, about $1000, so not about to onsell it just yet

i'm just exploring my options for the future atm ...
Hey Knute , we just done the conversion in my mates HQ GTS with a 383 chev, the engine made 514 HP on dyno and the trimatic is a good conversion.

If you are pushing more power than 550 + HP that then i would look at a powerglide or a turbo box.

We used a bellhousing housing adapter and the Full manual trimatic with TCE converter and bellhousing were supplied by Hugo @ RACEGLIDES Australia. 9338-1000. Give him a call if you want any advice.

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I had 700hp going thru my trimatic on the street for a couple of months and it handled it fine, dunno how it would have gone with a set of slicks on...
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i blew up a hugos box with 400hp,the only 500hp cars trimatics survive in is very light cars with little tyres (weight and torque kill them,so does big tyres)
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The Torquepower adapter is by a long shot , the better stronger. straighter smartest way of doing it, pity about the Bloody ridiculous price , but thats normal for torquepower stuff , thats why you get a half hour conversation every time you ring him , the salespitch has got to paid for somehow . afterall hes probably in the States swanning around on the money made from charging such outrageous prices. Still , if you have to have the best , the Torquepower is the only way , ask any good Tri-matic builder what the number one fault is , and they will tell you that it is the misalignment/warpage problem of the removable/replaceable front housing. All Adapter plate type setups only excaserbate this problem .I think moot may be right that you do need to be careful when using the Trimatics in say plus 1650KG cars but they are bloody cheap to rebuild .
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i blew up a hugos box with 400hp,the only 500hp cars trimatics survive in is very light cars with little tyres (weight and torque kill them,so does big tyres)
That funny, i've done 180 passes in a full steel HQ street car running 11.00's with a 10" slick and heaps of street driving and freshened the box once, only because i thought i should. So there goes your theory !

What kills them the most is heat. so if u blew ur 400hp trimatic up dont bag the bulider straight away as there are many factors which come into affect . As Hugo builds some of the toughest boxes for some of the fastest cars in Australia and overseas, At the end of the day its a mechanical item and racing these components something can always go wrong doensnt matter who built it. Raceglides , Pro-Trans, ProMatics, TradeMatics, Al's Race glides just to name a few. These are all reputable Tranny builders that im sure all get there fair share of problems.

To be safe i wouldnt put anymore than 500-550hp through them and as long as its built correctly by a reputable shop.

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i'm not bagging hugos. it was a great box for what it was but i abused it,if i just ran it at the strip and did street driving it would have been fine,start doing big topgear burnouts and well....

my mates car runs a trimatic and runs mid 10's. he hasnt had any problems either, BUT he is very respectful of his gearbox. and he knows its only a matter of time. you could build 10 identical boxes and 1 might fail at 400hp and 1 might hold 700hp.

i have gone for a glide this time,only because i have no mechanical sympathy
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i'm not bagging hugos. it was a great box for what it was but i abused it,if i just ran it at the strip and did street driving it would have been fine,start doing big topgear burnouts and well....

my mates car runs a trimatic and runs mid 10's. he hasnt had any problems either, BUT he is very respectful of his gearbox. and he knows its only a matter of time. you could build 10 identical boxes and 1 might fail at 400hp and 1 might hold 700hp.

i have gone for a glide this time,only because i have no mechanical sympathy
Very true. Good choice in the Glide hope you put a transbrake in too, im sure u will have alot of fun hittng the button.
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Agreed , the heat problem is probably number one for trimatics but it manifests itself firstly in pump performance which is directly affected by the pump housing/front housing.
Trimatics are TRAUMATICS because losers get them Second hand, done 200,000 k Plus ,and hammer them, till they shit themselves , hardly the boxes fault.
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