Ford 302 Cleveland Distributor - Aussie V8 | Holden - Ford

ZAFluffyBunny · 08-01-2008, 05:48 AM

Hi,

I've been convinced for the past 3 months that I have a Windsor motor.... but as far as I can see, it's actually a Cleveland...

This has left me with a slight problem, I was planning to install a new distributor... Will one for the 351 cleveland fit?

Thanks,
Leon

Cougar · 08-01-2008, 08:10 AM

The 302 Cleveland was made only in Australia, and is simply a 351 Cleveland with shorter stroke, so I'd reckon the distributor from a 351 should fit.

1BADSS · 08-01-2008, 09:10 AM

If your thermostat is on the manifold it is a Windsor, if it is sitting in front of the manifold bolted to the block it is a Cleveland. that is the easiest way of visually telling them apart.

ZAFluffyBunny · 08-01-2008, 05:00 PM

Thanks

My thermostat is definitely in the block... Now I wonder if the 302 Cleveland was assembled in South Africa as well, or if this engine is all the way from Australia

Cougar · 08-01-2008, 05:59 PM

I know South Africa shared a lot of components (and cars) with Australia, not sure whether the engines went complete or not, but the blocks are most likely cast in Australia.

ZAFluffyBunny · 08-01-2008, 06:34 PM

yeah, I'm pretty sure the block is Australian... A lot of the components have "Made in Austalia" stamped one them

What are the chances that my 302 Cleveland is actually a 351?

crazy351 · 08-01-2008, 07:54 PM

the only way u gonna find that out is if u pull the sum off and see if there is a 351 stamped on the crank . A 302 and a 351 cleveland have the same block so with the first question on the dissy , there might be a far chance that dissy is gonna work

ZAFluffyBunny · 08-01-2008, 07:58 PM

I need to give her a good service, so I might as well pull the sump and have a look.

I'll check the dizzy I have in now, and see if that is the same as the 351

ZAFluffyBunny · 08-01-2008, 08:00 PM

Although, I see on ebay they sell them as being the same

ZAFluffyBunny · 09-01-2008, 05:53 AM

I got hold of a guy in Cape Town who "knows everything Ford V8", and he says it is the same dizzy

Schweet

TuffXR · 09-01-2008, 09:11 AM

Its also the same as a 460 distributor.

On the blocks though there are two size for the dizzy shaft. Early and late block as well here in OZ.

ZAFluffyBunny · 23-01-2008, 08:33 PM

Just out of interest....

I bought a Pertronix Flamethrower for a Cleveland 351 and it fits like a charm, and apparently it will fit both hole sizes

russxr67 · 23-01-2008, 09:36 PM

Thats because it must be machined to suit thye later block. In an earlier block it wil be a sloppy fit.

ZAFluffyBunny · 24-01-2008, 12:05 AM

What year is the later block? Mine is a 74

351zh · 29-01-2008, 11:17 PM

You can also pull a spark plug out and measure to bottom dead centre, surely someone will know the specs, I think 302 is 1/2 inch shorter than 351? Anyone know?

08-01-2008, 05:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	Ford 302 Cleveland Distributor Hi, I've been convinced for the past 3 months that I have a Windsor motor.... but as far as I can see, it's actually a Cleveland... This has left me with a slight problem, I was planning to install a new distributor... Will one for the 351 cleveland fit? Thanks, Leon

08-01-2008, 09:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
1BADSS IN CUBES WE TRUST Trade Rating: (2) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Ride: LX SS Torana & VE SS V Commonwhore Posts: 3,621	If your thermostat is on the manifold it is a Windsor, if it is sitting in front of the manifold bolted to the block it is a Cleveland. that is the easiest way of visually telling them apart. __________________ That is a sweet noise you got there man, I had you picked clear across the valley............ 'headbang'

08-01-2008, 07:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
crazy351 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Qld Ride: XY GT Replica Posts: 44	the only way u gonna find that out is if u pull the sum off and see if there is a 351 stamped on the crank . A 302 and a 351 cleveland have the same block so with the first question on the dissy , there might be a far chance that dissy is gonna work __________________ Smoke em up Son Show us wat u made of

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08-01-2008, 08:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cougar 460ci ought to do it Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bendigo, Vic Ride: BA XR8 Ute, Suzuki GSF250V Bandit Posts: 214	The 302 Cleveland was made only in Australia, and is simply a 351 Cleveland with shorter stroke, so I'd reckon the distributor from a 351 should fit.

08-01-2008, 05:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	Thanks My thermostat is definitely in the block... Now I wonder if the 302 Cleveland was assembled in South Africa as well, or if this engine is all the way from Australia

08-01-2008, 05:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cougar 460ci ought to do it Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bendigo, Vic Ride: BA XR8 Ute, Suzuki GSF250V Bandit Posts: 214	I know South Africa shared a lot of components (and cars) with Australia, not sure whether the engines went complete or not, but the blocks are most likely cast in Australia.

08-01-2008, 06:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	yeah, I'm pretty sure the block is Australian... A lot of the components have "Made in Austalia" stamped one them What are the chances that my 302 Cleveland is actually a 351?

08-01-2008, 07:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	I need to give her a good service, so I might as well pull the sump and have a look. I'll check the dizzy I have in now, and see if that is the same as the 351

08-01-2008, 08:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	Although, I see on ebay they sell them as being the same

09-01-2008, 05:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	I got hold of a guy in Cape Town who "knows everything Ford V8", and he says it is the same dizzy Schweet

09-01-2008, 09:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
TuffXR casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Ride: 1967 XR Fairmont Posts: 67	Its also the same as a 460 distributor. On the blocks though there are two size for the dizzy shaft. Early and late block as well here in OZ.

23-01-2008, 08:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	Just out of interest.... I bought a Pertronix Flamethrower for a Cleveland 351 and it fits like a charm, and apparently it will fit both hole sizes

23-01-2008, 09:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
russxr67 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: perth Ride: XR fairmont Posts: 155	Thats because it must be machined to suit thye later block. In an earlier block it wil be a sloppy fit.

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24-01-2008, 12:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
ZAFluffyBunny Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South Africa Ride: 1974 Ford Ranchero Posts: 15	What year is the later block? Mine is a 74

29-01-2008, 11:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
351zh Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Perth Ride: Fords Posts: 5	You can also pull a spark plug out and measure to bottom dead centre, surely someone will know the specs, I think 302 is 1/2 inch shorter than 351? Anyone know?