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    Question T5 conversion - shifter issue

    Lads and ladies,
    I haven't been able to source the appropriate information either here or elsewhere but it's not the first time this has happened so I need to know how others have gotten around it.
    The Tremec T5 used in VN's etc is a little too long and sits the shifter too far back in the car so when 2nd, 4th & R are engaged it fouls on the floor plate and interior/centre console. A mate of mine got a shifter/top plate from somewhere for his T56 that moved the shifter assembly itself forward the 2.5" or whatever he needed to centre the shifter in the console.
    How have you guys who have experienced the same problem gotten around this?
    To clarify, the standard position in the rectangular top plate has the shifter at the rear of the plate. What I require is to move the shifter itself 2"/50mm forward towards the motor.
    Any help would be grouse. Cheers.

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    just got a bit of steel about 8mm thick and cut it into a rectangle shape.
    drilled two holes that will line up with the shifter so they can be bolted together, then two more holes further forward so the gear stick can be bolted to the plate.

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    I see what you mean shifty but my problem is the shifter itself. The part that protrudes from the box that you bolt the stick to. That's what's colliding with the plate. I'm not sure on the nomenclature of the parts so hopefully you guys know what I'm referring to. For example, I've been told to get a dog leg stick, but what the dog leg will bolt to is still going to collide.. Moving the removable stick isn't the issue, it's the shifter assembly itself, the part that has the knob that slots into the selector shaft. Thanks for your two cents though, appreciate it.

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    What car and engine are we talking about ?

    Fit a Falcon 6 T5 ?

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    yeah what car? i have a t5 in a vc and i did exactly what i wrote above?
    the box itself was mounted low enough that the little stub didnt hit the floor.

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    My guess is vn t5 in a hq to wb

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    Shit sorry guys I thought I mentioned it. It's an '84 VK with a VN 304 block and matching box. I thought maybe the box is sitting too high. I'm wondering if some 5mm plate between the chassis and the crossmember will be enough to lower the stub down and get away with a dog leg stick. But will that strain the engine mounts? I dunno, there's got to be an easier way.

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    Castlemaine Rod Shop have these two items.

    SHIFTER10KIT - Tremec forward gearshift lever kit, &
    SHIFTER16 - Holden T5 5 speed.

    That's all the information they give. No pictures. Anyone got these that can fill me in on if they are what one would need to relocate the shifter position?
    Ta.

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    I have a VH with a VN 304 block but used a Ford 6 T5 and a modified Toploader bellhousing.

    Shifter fits the original hole perfectly.

    The Ford 6 T5 is shorter in the input shaft than the Holden V8 box. You will need to hack the original hole rearwards some. Don't lower the box, this will cause other issues.

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    I've got a VR T5 in my VH
    The shifter does sit right back, there's no chance it will fit with the factory cover. I just cut up my own custom shifter hole cover out of aluminium and then modified the console to suit
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    Yep either change the box itself to use a shifter with a further forward position like the Ford one, or change the floor/tunnel and console to suit the Holden one. This is a V6 conversion but the shifter sits in the same place as ynot8's example:



    I just removed the floor piece out of the donor VN and modified it to suit the hole in the VK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struggler View Post
    I have a VH with a VN 304 block but used a Ford 6 T5 and a modified Toploader bellhousing.

    Shifter fits the original hole perfectly.

    The Ford 6 T5 is shorter in the input shaft than the Holden V8 box. You will need to hack the original hole rearwards some. Don't lower the box, this will cause other issues.
    Cheers guys looks like yours came up alright. Yeah it may have to be a case of more alterations but I was hoping to keep it original. I've alread got the car running with the set up I have. It's currently at the exhaust shop I should be picking it up tomorrow. Hey struggler you done anything to your 304? K thought maybe the 6 cylinder T5 wouldn't be up to par with my motor as its stroked to 355 and mine came with my block anyway so it was a bit of a package deal.

    Chris from castlemaine rod shop told me that Mal Wood have the correct conversion piece. I'll give him a bell and see what comes from it. I'll let you guys know what pans out.

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    All the World Class T5s are basically the same, some slightly different ratios but the same 'box whether 6 or 8. T5G is a little different but you probably don't have one of them. You should be able to swap the Ford shifter housing pieces onto your 'box if you want to retain the current ratios, that's probably the conversion piece you are talking about.

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    Forgive the ignorance 76 but if the boxes are about the same then what would the difference in the shifter parts be?
    I ended up speaking to Mal Wood and apparently I need a new shifter rail, the T5 housing piece from a mustang which needs to be machined so it can sit straight up and down instead of cocked for the yanks, a new gear, and I dunno what else but it's all about $900 worth of kit.
    **** man I just need the top plate, if you can do it for a T56 why the bloody hell can't you do it for a T5? I know its been done before! It wasn't so much the money that put me off but the fact that I'd have to pull my box out aaaaaaall over again and I just canny be bothered! There must have been something lost in communication over the phone or he's trying to oversell me on shit I don't need. I don't know but I've lost a lot of faith over this build in people who should know better when I ask for one thing and get sent something completely ****ing different that doesn't fit.

    Latest drama was with an autometer speedo sender.
    "Mate I can't see an internal thread and I don't have the box in front of me to confirm but is it the GM style or the Ford push in I need. It's a Holden box came out of a VN etc etc"
    "Yeah yeah it's definitely the GM type"
    Well apparently no, no it's bloody not because there is no thread at all it's the ford push in type! Dicked around for another bloody fortnight by the time I get the right one. ****s sake.
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    I put a VN T5 in my VK, shifter sat too far back so i made 2 plates to sit either side of the shifter and drilled a couple holes to make the shifter sit forwards 40mm.

    Cant notice it in the gear change etc, and it clears the back of the console.

    I can't remember if i had to cut the housing slightly or not to help house the plates.

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