Lucifers_PanelVan

Hey guys!

With the Nats just around the corner I thought it a good time to look for a new carby/manifold setup to get the 202 I have running better.

Can people please throw some suggesitons at me? I am new to working carby and manifold matches out.
Basically I want something that runs well, not too thristy but has more power than standard (probably like everyone else) and something that can maybe be converted to run gas or easy to sell if I need to get a whole new carby setup for gas. I don't mind single, twins - I just need an idea of names and models and such.
Any help would be good.

Thanks in advance.

Oldman

torquer manifolds on there net page have a number of manifolds take a look there it'll give you some ideas performer may also have some look both up

Kerb

Years ago I had a 192 ( 186 +.60 ) with a XU1 spec crow cam and YT Bathurst 6000 head ... Pacemakers and 2 1/2 inch single exhaust ...

I fit a "Cain" manifold and 2 barrel 350 Holley ...

It was a sweet package ... Sounded great under WOT ...

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Always thought about doing the same setup with a 202 for the extra cubes ...

stinky

I've got a 4BBL Cain manifold and 450 Vac Sec Holley on my 202, not too bad on the petrol if I take it easy. Easy gas conversion too, just rip off the carb and replace with a Holley bae plate then fit up your gas gear.

Lucifers_PanelVan

Cool... Thanks for the replies guys...
I'll be at the Summer Nats so I'll have to see what I can find there...

If you know anyone wanting to sell a setup and they are off to the Nats - I'll be interested...

ferret

3 side draft webbers would be different but not really what your looking for.

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Lucifers_PanelVan

A mate of mine and I were talking last night about 6 vs. V8. Now, my panel van is for cruising down the coast, going up bush, towing a trailer/boat. Now I thought a 6 would be able to do all this but my friend reckons that only a V8 will do (ie 253 or 308).
Could I get peoples opinions on this? I would prefer to stay 202, and mod it and get it running straight gas - the only other option is V8 but there is no way I could afford the gas conversion on it till 2008/2009.

Peoples opinions would be appreciated...

stinky

With a HZ Pano, towing and highway cruising would be easier with a V8, hills would be a cinch too. As for the gas conversion, I got quoted $2450 in Adelaide if I supplied the base plate. So that's $450 after the Government rebate, you can even use second hand systems for the rebate as long as you provide receipts and it is fitted by a licensed fitter. If you are a smart shopper you might even get it on gas for free!

ferret

a turbo'd 202 would be cheaper rego and can still run gas, just anouther option.

scratch that I was thinking qld rego. $110 per cylender + ctp + tax + whatever else they wanna charge. theiving bastards.

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Kerb

VL Commodore ( nissan ) Turbo driveline ?

... or even turbo the 202 ... Not many do that ...

Lucifers_PanelVan

Hmm.... nice ideas... V8 conversion would be more straight forward for me to do - but a turbo 202 - very different...

ferret

or side mount supercharger but the turbo will be more efficient as ya don't use it unless your under a lot of load or give it a boot full

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Kerb

Yeah turbo would be better for fuel economy ...

Only seen one Holden red motor turbo'd before ... When I was in Rocky a guy had a Turbo 202 in a EH Station Wagon at a dyno day. It had the rear wheel covers, ventian blinds, windscreen sunshade and std. wheels and hubcaps. Complete grandpa car and in immaculate condition. Sounded totally std. and when he ramped it up on the dyno ... 350RWHP

... It's easy too ... all you need is a custon manifold, turbo, plumbing and someone to tune your holley for "blow through" ... other than that it's the usual stuff you'd do with any upgrade ... brakes / suspension / exhaust etc ... Maybe go to a electric fuel pump and run a return line ...

If you choose a sensible turbo size, and make it like a factory install you wouldn't even need a intercooler ... but a WRX one from a wreckers would be a cheap/easy fit option if you choose to use one ...

I have a 202 in the back of my shed I have always wanted to do this with ... nothing to put it in but ...

The greatest thing about forced induction is it negates the need for big cylinder head mods, other than if you are chasing BIG BIG HP. For example a N/A 202 would benefit greatly from a big compression, big valve ported head ... it would benefit even more if that head was a later blue/black 12 port rather than the red 9 port head. Big heads require big camshafts and all in all and this cost $$$ and ruins drivability ... especially when you want to tow something you can't really go down this path too far. You'd have to keep it a real mild build, and then you wouldn't notice that big a difference ... You'd be better off going with a V8 then ...

... but if you wack a turbo on instead you'll get great power gains with a std. 9 port red head anyway, as well as better drivability ( more torque ) and retain or improve your fuel economy ...

Lucifers_PanelVan

Kerb = You have deffinately given me something to think about. I thought the turbo route just too hard to go down but now I an interested...
Time for some serious research

oldn64

Yes the v8 route will do the job. But so will the 202, it will just be a slightly slower trip and a bit more work when hills etc come up. You will notice that the 253 will be a good stop gap as you can get economy better than teh 202 and teh v8 torque. If you build your 253 sensible (or just install a blue 253 to start with) then you will get a brillant machine.

The 253 is not as bad as most will lead you to believe. It is hell better than the 202 but in a EH the 253 is a pain to get regoed whereas the 202 is hell easier...

Cheers

PS: If you have a blue head then seriously look at getting teh varajet modded. These are a brillant carby but most seem fasinated with a Holley misconceptions.. Bloody buckets with a hole.. GRRR Your other option is look at a DGV 32/36 Weber off a 2L cortina/escort (yes I know these are actually a holley but the weber corp improved the design) and rejet it correctly. the ADM's (falcon 4.1L carbs) arent as nice as the DGV. And if you are considering webers (no way gas going to flow through these) then a cheaper option will be delleratos. Most people rip these off top replace with webers. The delleratos are a better carb as they do not have a fuel bowl and thus can be mounted any which way. including vertically.