202 to 235 stroker progect in progress. - Aussie V8 | Holden - Ford

RIPGAS384 · 08-12-2005, 05:12 PM

hey this is for the LC. got a black block, with dirty big genie extractors. want to keep them, but i want to put tripple su`s on top.

anyone know if i can put the red 8 port head on my black block?? havent got one lying around and dont want to buy the wrong shizer.

oh yeah can someone help me get a little pic up on my profile, been trying for ages.

wabbit · 08-12-2005, 05:54 PM

you can put the red head on your block as long as it's 9 port. otherwise you're missing a port

the red heads have different coolant passages. you will need to plug the small 1/4" holes and drill some larger 1/2" ? holes.

to plug the smaller holes, just tap them and put a grub screw in each sealed with stag or something.
mark out the other holes using a head gasket as a template.

that's all assuming you want to run the black coolant passages. they do keep the hot spot away from the rear of the head.

you could plug the larger holes in the block and drill it for the smaller holes

RIPGAS384 · 08-12-2005, 07:53 PM

hahha nine port. i knew that. im silly well sounds to me a bit more tricky than i thaught it would be. perhaps i will get a red block. cheers wabbit. is your name warren by any chance?

wabbit · 08-12-2005, 10:23 PM

that's my surname

you could get a red block, but you'll miss out on the improved cooling of the black block and head. having said that, i haven't heard of anyone who's had hot spot troubles in the red heads who actually looked after their motor. i.e change the coolant occasionally.

don't forget to use the rods from your black block, though.
they're the same as starfire rods, but worth less. i believe they're the same part number

RIPGAS384 · 08-12-2005, 10:27 PM

wow i didnt know that about the rods. will use them thanks for that mate. so you have done a bit of work on ol 202`s then

wabbit · 08-12-2005, 10:31 PM

i have a 186 in my torrie at the moment and i researched doing the same mod.

i've since gotten rid of the dirty, filthy non V8 stuff. ( kinda like a born again christian )

i had a black head to go on my 186 red block. using black motor rods and pistons and decking 50 thou off the block gives a 8.5:1 compression.
i was going to use a sc14 blower and VK injection
also had a steel crank to go into the motor.
there's one very happy torrie owner in mackay who scored it all for nothing when i had a clean up

RIPGAS384 · 08-12-2005, 10:53 PM

lol im the opposite, i have always been a v8 commodore boy, now all my v8 stuff is being sold or has been stolen. inline sixes are my flavor of the month. thanks to richard branson and my new credit card i should be flying around with a quick six soon, just got to get A RED block, crank and su`s.

what you think of the plans. 202 stroked to 235
30/70 cam. bay $30
elec dizzy off my black motor
triple su`s
polished head

thinking of welding up the old banjo diff, and just running the 3 speed auto till it dies

wabbit · 08-12-2005, 11:06 PM

that sounds the goods. i like the 235 stroker kits

remind me again why you want to go with a red head. i assume you've already got the head you want to use.
blue/black heads will outflow a yella terra with a little clean up only. they have a better port arrangement with the 12 port configuration and the ports flow more. they have the same size exhaust valve and larger inlets than what's commonly called stage 3 yella terra.

RIPGAS384 · 08-12-2005, 11:25 PM

wanted to put tripples on it. i didnt know the black heads were any good, and assumed that a tripple su ported red head setup would kick ass over a black head witha varijet. i know these varijets can go pretty good, i think you might of changed my mind wabbit, and saved me some cash too. nxt time im in rockhampton ill buy you a tooheys new. thx mate

wabbit · 08-12-2005, 11:31 PM

i was thinking more of a set of triples on a black head. you'll still save money compared to the cost of getting a red head to flow what a 12 port will

you'll be a bit hard pressed to find any toohey's new in rockvegas
i was drinking that when i worked in new south for a few months
POT OF FOUREX is a hell of a lot easier to say than A MIDDY OF TOOHEY'S NEWIES after a dozen schooies

RIPGAS384 · 11-12-2005, 10:18 AM

wabbit i didnt think a su manifold would bolt up to the red head,

"limp four X........ at least its better than hieneken or that mexican crap.

wabbit · 12-12-2005, 01:57 AM

you can buy manifolds to suit the 12 port heads to suit either triple sus or webers/dellortos

CHEVY_torana · 02-03-2006, 08:18 PM

hey wabbit im doing the same thing to my torana except im using a blue motor with efi tri y extractors and the sc14 supercharger let me know how yours is going mate

wabbit · 03-03-2006, 08:31 PM

chevy,

i saw the light and gave all my 6 cylinder stuff away, so i could collect V8 stuff.

CHEVY_torana · 05-03-2006, 07:34 PM

whats your v8 oging into what sort of v8 are you using and what sort of mods?

08-12-2005, 05:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
RIPGAS384 Mods, change me to gstar Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Blue Mountains Ride: your mother Posts: 172	202 to 235 stroker progect in progress. hey this is for the LC. got a black block, with dirty big genie extractors. want to keep them, but i want to put tripple su`s on top. anyone know if i can put the red 8 port head on my black block?? havent got one lying around and dont want to buy the wrong shizer. oh yeah can someone help me get a little pic up on my profile, been trying for ages.

08-12-2005, 05:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	you can put the red head on your block as long as it's 9 port. otherwise you're missing a port the red heads have different coolant passages. you will need to plug the small 1/4" holes and drill some larger 1/2" ? holes. to plug the smaller holes, just tap them and put a grub screw in each sealed with stag or something. mark out the other holes using a head gasket as a template. that's all assuming you want to run the black coolant passages. they do keep the hot spot away from the rear of the head. you could plug the larger holes in the block and drill it for the smaller holes __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

08-12-2005, 10:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	that's my surname you could get a red block, but you'll miss out on the improved cooling of the black block and head. having said that, i haven't heard of anyone who's had hot spot troubles in the red heads who actually looked after their motor. i.e change the coolant occasionally. don't forget to use the rods from your black block, though. they're the same as starfire rods, but worth less. i believe they're the same part number __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

08-12-2005, 10:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
RIPGAS384 Mods, change me to gstar Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Blue Mountains Ride: your mother Posts: 172	wow i didnt know that about the rods. will use them thanks for that mate. so you have done a bit of work on ol 202`s then __________________ Dont put your email adress in your signature, It gets you a shitload of spam

08-12-2005, 10:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	i have a 186 in my torrie at the moment and i researched doing the same mod. i've since gotten rid of the dirty, filthy non V8 stuff. ( kinda like a born again christian ) i had a black head to go on my 186 red block. using black motor rods and pistons and decking 50 thou off the block gives a 8.5:1 compression. i was going to use a sc14 blower and VK injection also had a steel crank to go into the motor. there's one very happy torrie owner in mackay who scored it all for nothing when i had a clean up __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

08-12-2005, 07:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
RIPGAS384 Mods, change me to gstar Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Blue Mountains Ride: your mother Posts: 172	hahha nine port. i knew that. im silly well sounds to me a bit more tricky than i thaught it would be. perhaps i will get a red block. cheers wabbit. is your name warren by any chance?

08-12-2005, 10:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
RIPGAS384 Mods, change me to gstar Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Blue Mountains Ride: your mother Posts: 172	lol im the opposite, i have always been a v8 commodore boy, now all my v8 stuff is being sold or has been stolen. inline sixes are my flavor of the month. thanks to richard branson and my new credit card i should be flying around with a quick six soon, just got to get A RED block, crank and su`s. what you think of the plans. 202 stroked to 235 30/70 cam. bay $30 elec dizzy off my black motor triple su`s polished head thinking of welding up the old banjo diff, and just running the 3 speed auto till it dies __________________ Dont put your email adress in your signature, It gets you a shitload of spam

08-12-2005, 11:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	that sounds the goods. i like the 235 stroker kits remind me again why you want to go with a red head. i assume you've already got the head you want to use. blue/black heads will outflow a yella terra with a little clean up only. they have a better port arrangement with the 12 port configuration and the ports flow more. they have the same size exhaust valve and larger inlets than what's commonly called stage 3 yella terra. __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

08-12-2005, 11:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
RIPGAS384 Mods, change me to gstar Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Blue Mountains Ride: your mother Posts: 172	wanted to put tripples on it. i didnt know the black heads were any good, and assumed that a tripple su ported red head setup would kick ass over a black head witha varijet. i know these varijets can go pretty good, i think you might of changed my mind wabbit, and saved me some cash too. nxt time im in rockhampton ill buy you a tooheys new. thx mate __________________ Dont put your email adress in your signature, It gets you a shitload of spam

08-12-2005, 11:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	i was thinking more of a set of triples on a black head. you'll still save money compared to the cost of getting a red head to flow what a 12 port will you'll be a bit hard pressed to find any toohey's new in rockvegas i was drinking that when i worked in new south for a few months POT OF FOUREX is a hell of a lot easier to say than A MIDDY OF TOOHEY'S NEWIES after a dozen schooies __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

11-12-2005, 10:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
RIPGAS384 Mods, change me to gstar Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Blue Mountains Ride: your mother Posts: 172	wabbit i didnt think a su manifold would bolt up to the red head, "limp four X........ at least its better than hieneken or that mexican crap. __________________ Dont put your email adress in your signature, It gets you a shitload of spam

12-12-2005, 01:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	you can buy manifolds to suit the 12 port heads to suit either triple sus or webers/dellortos __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

02-03-2006, 08:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
CHEVY_torana Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: bendigo Ride: 1972 holden torana Posts: 17	hey wabbit im doing the same thing to my torana except im using a blue motor with efi tri y extractors and the sc14 supercharger let me know how yours is going mate

03-03-2006, 08:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,121	chevy, i saw the light and gave all my 6 cylinder stuff away, so i could collect V8 stuff. __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

05-03-2006, 07:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
CHEVY_torana Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: bendigo Ride: 1972 holden torana Posts: 17	whats your v8 oging into what sort of v8 are you using and what sort of mods?

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