prince_dj666

just like to see what ppl think about this thread...
which is better? pod or k'n panel?


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TVS

Pod enclosed in a heatshield. If not going to have it shielded from the engine bay heat, then a panel will be better.

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bigjaysV6

Panel filter without a doubt, especially if you have an SS Inductions cold air kit.

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prince_dj666

i believe those ss inductions dont really work....

TVS

Some do some don't. It really doesnt matter about heat getting to the filter that much anyway (as much as people argue it will). Look at all the big HP cars like GTR's and the jap imports that run less then 10's down the 1/4. They all got pods sitting in the engine bay and it doesnt worry em. It's up to you I just wouldnt lose sleep over which way you go.

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prince_dj666

yeh true dat.. air gets heated by the turbo or blower neway.... but with the ss kits.. spray a high pressure hose to the front of the car. and it doesnt even get wet. so really not much air is getting in those things nemore. i had a panel. got rid of it. pod works now for me with a diff cai set up

SiLENCE

in a naturally aspirated car it will make a BIG difference.

the reason many turbo imports dont bother with shielding is simply due to the fact that they usually have a decent intercooler which will lower the temp of the air significantly before it reaches the engine. N/A cars dont have this luxury and as such should be adequately heatshielded for best results.

oh, the SS inductions CAI kits are s***... complete s***.

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TVS

That is a good point. I agree with that.

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SiLENCE

with that said, even turbo cars benefit from heatshielding. As you no doubt are aware, colder air is more dense than warm air. The colder you can get the air before it reaches the turbo the better off you'll be as the difference in temp could possibly be in the tens of degrees. Think of it as being slightly similar to say, driving you car on a 17 degree day in winter, then driving it again at night when the temp is only 5-7 degrees. There will be a VERY noticeable increase in both power and throttle response, and if a little bit of heatshielding can save you that few extra degrees in inlet temp it too is worthwhile.

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wigga

SS inductions is a big waste of money.

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azzahstylez

i bought my ute with the ss induction, made a lil bit of increase to my ute...

vkdesire

i dont know if the vl and vn air cleaner is the same, but i did sum changes to the a vl a bit ago,,, i put i sizeable hole in the bootom of the air cleaner setup and ran a pipe down behind the bumper, than blocked off the original hole in the front of the air box and chuked a k&n panel filter in,, it made a good difrence, mostly noticable at a half decent speed tho...

mark

ss reductions.
i guess theres better intakes out there.

but a pod in an enclosed box wouldn't be to bad.

azzahstylez

i got ss induction and a k&N filter in box.

Woodsy

I'm with Mark. SS reductions are well known to make very little difference in the LS1 scene. I think their biggest success was that (for a while) they were all you could get. But with the standard (Monaro style) cold air intake giving better results and the growing popularity of the even better over-the-radiator set-ups, no one gives two tosses about SS reductions anymore.

As already said, all big power turbo cars have some form of intercooling. Wether this is air/air or air/water the intake charge is dropping temp dramatically before it hits the intake manifold so drawing hot air from the engine bay isn't that big an issue. Having said that, these cars usually have some sort of bonnet vents and/or one of the headlights removed to promote cool air flowing through the engine bay. Also, water/methanol sprays are often used to cool the intake charge as well.

My preference : an over-the-radiator CAI (OTRCAI) with a big panel in it. It'll flow heaps of air, will sound great doing it and will make your wang bigger by at least 10%.

(Ok, I lied about the last bit. But I'm sure I saw it printed on an SS reductions brochure somewhere)