strongy

hey

i'm looking at putting a 202 in a tonner, it is my first project so im not looking at doing too much to it, just getting it to run nicely. i'm looking for some advice on which colour 202 would be the best to put in it and i don't know much about gearboxes so what gear box to go with it (i'm thinking blue 202 and maybe m20?). it will just be for every day use and be under p plates so i can't do anything too obvious.

BossHoggett

and im thinking vn-vr holden v6 or v8

Its not harder or scarier, and no more technical.
And youll get more power and better economy. and both engines make a the basis of later Hi PO build.

76lxhatch

An injected V6 or V8 would be more powerful and cheaper to run, and quite an easy swap. But - in comparison the 202 is vastly simpler again, and much cheaper to buy and install so I think you're on the right track with this. If you're not concerned about power then it doesn't matter whether red or blue either, better off shopping around for one that's complete and in good nick so you don't have to spend any money on it. Yes M20 would be the choice for manual gearbox for the 202. If you plan to spend any significant money on it or do a lot more to it later then consider BossHoggett's suggestion.

strongy

yeah thanks guys, i'm going to be a bit short on money but i'll look into the v6. how much cheaper will the v6 be to run

Smitty2

a later engine as the guys mentioned would be good
but
as a P plater you will have insurance hassles
so the 202 and 4 speed would be the go

a blue 202 and M20 (Aussie NOT Phillipines) will be a cheap setup


hth

Smitty

strongy

whats the 202's fuel economy like compared to the v6

BossHoggett

Awww wake up Australia......

1950s non Computer assisted technology, Vs 1980s computer assisted Californian emissions restricted Engineers focusing their talents in combustion chamber design and flame propagation. in order to get the biggest bang for your buck... what do you think....

strongy

ok, fair enough, stupid Q

Toast

You can always chuck it on LPG... Wonder which would be cheaper to run then? I get about 430k's from 80ltr LPG tank in my EH Prem, $45 bucks to fill... On the plus side it'll help you in the long run with being able to save money easier and do better things for your build.

I reckon you should think about getting a Celica 5 speed from a wreckers or something too, they sh!t all over the Aussie 'boxes.. They are a much better shifter.

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70rey

id stick with the 202 and m20 box mate...

that way you wont have any dramas from insurence. id prob go with a blue or black 202 and tuned right you can get decent km to a tank.

plus they are easy to work on engines and you can do all the work yourself... only thing i would change is the ignition. go to electronic

Smitty2

blue and blacks come with electronic ignition...as standard

allports

and your point is?????? Have you done the burn speed calcs on the vsux

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Toast

I don't recall any dramas from insurance with changing a gearbox from a 4 to a 5 speed???

Up to you strongy.
4 speed is good if you wonna drop skids all day cos they're tough as f**k.
Celica box is just easier to live with, more user friendly. Like you said, you want to get it running nicely for now. There's couple of mods to do but its well worth it.

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76lxhatch

Toast the Aussie 4 speed can stand a bit of abuse from a six, but you can't exactly thrash it without expecting problems. On the other hand, I'd say a well set up 4 speed has a much nicer shift than a Toyota box so I disagree on all points.

strongy sounds like your best bet is to stick with the tried and true 202 and 4 speed. It'll be both easy and cheap.

Toast

76lxhatch: I used to have an Aussie 4 speed behind my 202 with a Speco shifter, tight as f**k but once you get the shift right they're ok... The standard shifters are sluggish as hell too, you'll always be adjusting the linkages so that it shifts properly/changes gears, unlike the 5 speeder you don't have to touch the bloody thing.

Strongy, if you don't mind being under the car every couple of months tightening linkages n stuffing around, then the Aussie box is it. I've had both and the 5 speed is better and will be good enough for what you want it to do, for now. And don't listen to the people who say that the Celica box is a weak piece of sh!t, they don't know what they're on about... Plenty of blokes use them.

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