miss firing after i changed the plugs - Aussie V8 | Holden - Ford

CK_318 · 11-02-2008, 07:05 PM

i just changed my spark plugs on my series1 V6 the same as the ones that were in it before. and now it is coughing and spluttering like an emphysema patient. i did one plug one lead at a time. the only thing i can think of that may have caused it is, i had a momentary memory lapse and started teh car without the filter attached. and there is a tab missing off of teh aircon connector switch.

please help me i have to go upto my step mothers 50th this weekend and i don't really want to have to spend anymore money on it

CK_318 · 12-02-2008, 08:46 AM

never mind in that momentary lapse in concentration i the the number 3 & 6 leads on the wrong plugs. stupid frustration makes you stuff up easier

allports · 12-02-2008, 09:14 AM

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Davo 351 · 12-02-2008, 09:03 PM

i was just bout to say check your leads arent the wrong way round or on the wrong plugs, just had that exact problem with the forklift at work, bloody apprentice put the leads on wrong way even tho they were clearly marked which side is which....

CK_318 · 12-02-2008, 09:45 PM

why for you say "stranger" allports??? and yeah i'm glad i had a closer look this morning with a level head. or else i would have thrown something thru a wall

stupid cramped drivers side of teh engine bay too

rifle

toryman · 12-02-2008, 10:08 PM

my guess would have been that u might have used bosch (friggin shit) leads but yeah, leads the wrong way round would give u the same headache.

CK_318 · 12-02-2008, 10:17 PM

nah the leads were top gun gas rated leads. dunno what the new ones will be tho they didn't have them in stock when i went to go buy them

toryman · 12-02-2008, 10:22 PM

top gun r good leads, NGK r also quite good, champion r so-so, just whatever u do dont get bosch! they used to be fine but now they r nothing short of absolute crap.

Woodsy · 12-02-2008, 10:38 PM

I know you've got her running now but did you gap your plugs dude?

SS Hatchback · 12-02-2008, 11:00 PM

i remember changing all plugs on my vr last time and it was farting and carrying on, i knew i never stuffed up witht the leads so i began to change an old plug in place of the newly installed plugs one at a time then it had to be the last one but found that the plug looked fine but just wasnt working properly , swapped for another new one and all was ok.

CK_318 · 13-02-2008, 08:34 AM

yeah i gave a quick check that all the plugs had a gap of 1.5 mm as teh service guide specifies and that there was no nick or any other ab normalities. but when i get the leads i'm gunna take em out again anyway and give them another look over. coz the would have been in there for about a week by then i think?

Davo 351 · 13-02-2008, 05:36 PM

service guide said 1.5mm gap? i worked at ford for 6 months servicing cars etc etc, and i was told it should be 1mm to 1.2mm, 1.5mm at the VERY max.
does it vary that much from car to car or have i been fed wrong info?

CK_318 · 13-02-2008, 05:50 PM

this is just what i remember when i checked the plugs at TAFE when i was doing my course there. and it said that the plug gap for a VN/VP V6 was to be 1.5 mm. but i do agree it does seem and awfully large gap tho.

and that was the manufacturers service manual as well. workshop manuals may vary?

VN_355 · 16-02-2008, 01:07 AM

nah recommended gap for a vs v6 is 1.5mm. i used to have that gap on mine and it was fine.. go by the book

wabbit · 16-02-2008, 08:48 AM

1.5mm is a huge gap, especially for a waste spark setup.

my VS V6 needed the plug gaps closed up a little. it wouldn't run properly under load with the 1.5mm.

I closed the plugs up to 1.1mm and all was good.

Maybe I just needed new coil packs, but it ran fine with the 1.1mm gaps for about 60,000 more kms and was still working fine

11-02-2008, 07:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
CK_318 my shoulder is watching U Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muswellbrook NSW Ride: VN V6 Executive Posts: 4,007	miss firing after i changed the plugs i just changed my spark plugs on my series1 V6 the same as the ones that were in it before. and now it is coughing and spluttering like an emphysema patient. i did one plug one lead at a time. the only thing i can think of that may have caused it is, i had a momentary memory lapse and started teh car without the filter attached. and there is a tab missing off of teh aircon connector switch. please help me i have to go upto my step mothers 50th this weekend and i don't really want to have to spend anymore money on it __________________ Puppy eyes hide the sick mind behind

12-02-2008, 08:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
CK_318 my shoulder is watching U Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muswellbrook NSW Ride: VN V6 Executive Posts: 4,007	never mind in that momentary lapse in concentration i the the number 3 & 6 leads on the wrong plugs. stupid frustration makes you stuff up easier __________________ Puppy eyes hide the sick mind behind

12-02-2008, 09:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
allports Engine scientist Trade Rating: (1) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sutherland Ride: Dragster Posts: 3,112	Stranger __________________ If you plant a cucumber, you get a cucumber! Two things are infinate,the universe & human stupidity, and Im not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. Frank Zappa

12-02-2008, 09:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Davo 351 my email address doesnt exist Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mandurah, WA Ride: XE ute, EFI xflow Posts: 323	i was just bout to say check your leads arent the wrong way round or on the wrong plugs, just had that exact problem with the forklift at work, bloody apprentice put the leads on wrong way even tho they were clearly marked which side is which.... __________________ MUAYTHAI IS LIFE! first ringfight coming up

12-02-2008, 09:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
CK_318 my shoulder is watching U Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muswellbrook NSW Ride: VN V6 Executive Posts: 4,007	why for you say "stranger" allports??? and yeah i'm glad i had a closer look this morning with a level head. or else i would have thrown something thru a wall stupid cramped drivers side of teh engine bay too rifle __________________ Puppy eyes hide the sick mind behind

12-02-2008, 10:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
toryman Pure Evil Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Im a local everywhere Ride: everything i can get my hands on, 4 wheels or 2 Posts: 2,335	my guess would have been that u might have used bosch (friggin shit) leads but yeah, leads the wrong way round would give u the same headache. __________________ Now available in Sober, but for a limited time only! I wish it wasn't illegal to shoot stupid people.

12-02-2008, 10:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
CK_318 my shoulder is watching U Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muswellbrook NSW Ride: VN V6 Executive Posts: 4,007	nah the leads were top gun gas rated leads. dunno what the new ones will be tho they didn't have them in stock when i went to go buy them __________________ Puppy eyes hide the sick mind behind

12-02-2008, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
toryman Pure Evil Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Im a local everywhere Ride: everything i can get my hands on, 4 wheels or 2 Posts: 2,335	top gun r good leads, NGK r also quite good, champion r so-so, just whatever u do dont get bosch! they used to be fine but now they r nothing short of absolute crap. __________________ Now available in Sober, but for a limited time only! I wish it wasn't illegal to shoot stupid people.

12-02-2008, 10:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Woodsy D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mackay Ride: 82 VH SL/E Posts: 1,025	I know you've got her running now but did you gap your plugs dude? __________________ Stock stroke 308 in full weight 1982 VH SL/E = 13.019 @ 106.68MPH Thomas Oliver Woods 16/05/40 - 20/08/07 You will always be with me Dad

12-02-2008, 11:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
SS Hatchback Part of the furniture Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Coast Ride: SS Torana, VT Calais Posts: 1,267	i remember changing all plugs on my vr last time and it was farting and carrying on, i knew i never stuffed up witht the leads so i began to change an old plug in place of the newly installed plugs one at a time then it had to be the last one but found that the plug looked fine but just wasnt working properly , swapped for another new one and all was ok. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/id/sslxtorana http://www.aussiev8.com.au/members/s...hatchback.html http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...t=Cruise01.flv

13-02-2008, 08:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
CK_318 my shoulder is watching U Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muswellbrook NSW Ride: VN V6 Executive Posts: 4,007	yeah i gave a quick check that all the plugs had a gap of 1.5 mm as teh service guide specifies and that there was no nick or any other ab normalities. but when i get the leads i'm gunna take em out again anyway and give them another look over. coz the would have been in there for about a week by then i think? __________________ Puppy eyes hide the sick mind behind

13-02-2008, 05:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Davo 351 my email address doesnt exist Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mandurah, WA Ride: XE ute, EFI xflow Posts: 323	service guide said 1.5mm gap? i worked at ford for 6 months servicing cars etc etc, and i was told it should be 1mm to 1.2mm, 1.5mm at the VERY max. does it vary that much from car to car or have i been fed wrong info? __________________ MUAYTHAI IS LIFE! first ringfight coming up

13-02-2008, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
CK_318 my shoulder is watching U Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Muswellbrook NSW Ride: VN V6 Executive Posts: 4,007	this is just what i remember when i checked the plugs at TAFE when i was doing my course there. and it said that the plug gap for a VN/VP V6 was to be 1.5 mm. but i do agree it does seem and awfully large gap tho. and that was the manufacturers service manual as well. workshop manuals may vary? __________________ Puppy eyes hide the sick mind behind

16-02-2008, 01:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
VN_355 NO substitute for CI Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth Ride: VN Calais 5 ltr and HQ wellbody Posts: 220	nah recommended gap for a vs v6 is 1.5mm. i used to have that gap on mine and it was fine.. go by the book

16-02-2008, 08:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
wabbit smell something burning? Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rockhampton Ride: VK Commy slugmobile, Kia Rio, LH Torry Posts: 6,079	1.5mm is a huge gap, especially for a waste spark setup. my VS V6 needed the plug gaps closed up a little. it wouldn't run properly under load with the 1.5mm. I closed the plugs up to 1.1mm and all was good. Maybe I just needed new coil packs, but it ran fine with the 1.1mm gaps for about 60,000 more kms and was still working fine __________________ Nothing to see, here Move along, please .

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