Single Turbo 202 EFI - Aussie V8 | Holden - Ford

VHSLX253 · 21-02-2005, 09:00 PM

Has anyone thought of building a commodore like this, would it achieve respectable times?

VK Berlina
3.3ltr 202 efi worked with head, cam, flatop pistions and 9,0:! compression
Garrett single turbo system running 10psi
Turbosmart blow off valve
Front mounted intercooler
Strengthened 3-speed trimatic with a stage 2 shift kit and a 2500rpm stall convertor
Rebuilt VL turbo diff with 3.73:1 gears
15x7" Pursuit rims with 225's
Pacmaker extractors with a single 3" system

What are your thoughts on this car?

Regards.

VHSLX253...
with 136.7kw @ wheels...

why30l · 21-02-2005, 11:26 PM

all sounds good accept 9-1 compression
and you should go for a 500hp t3t4 internal gate turbo then will run some good times maybe 12s

VHSLX253 · 22-02-2005, 05:04 PM

What else could be done to this car to get to low 10's?

yt high ratio roller rockers
3.91:1 diff ratio

Regards.

VHSLX253...
with 136.7kw @ wheels...

Litre8 · 22-02-2005, 10:48 PM

Drop the comp to 8:1 or lower, crank the boost up to 18-20psi, convert it to run a specific turbo roller cam, go at least 1.72 a/r on the turbo exhaust housing to minimise back pressure.... and hang on!

VHSLX253 · 23-02-2005, 05:02 PM

Will this setup give the VL turbo's a run for there money, if this a cost effective car compared to the VL's?

Regards.

VHSLX253...
with 136.7kw @ wheels...

Litre8 · 23-02-2005, 05:56 PM

It will give street VLs a real run but ultimately the block and crank are stronger in the Nissan engine so ultimate power potential is higher with the Nissan engine. A streetable 500hp at the flywheel is definately achievable though from the 202, I used to get 380hp at the rear wheels with only 16psi and 6000rpm (went to 22psi and 8000rpm....)

Daryn · 23-02-2005, 06:07 PM

But if you wanted real bang for your buck you can't go past a Vl turbo......in my opinion, the rb30et has it all over the 202. Its strength in stock form is a major advantage.

mark · 23-02-2005, 11:52 PM

and is it cost effective?

well, considering the amount of workshops who specialise in go fast vlt's, then no not really..
you can get a vlt engine kit for around $7000 that will pull 12's. maybe less..
talk to PET although they're trying to break away from the VLT market, they've got 9second vlt's that run every weekend without fail. built strong!

SpLiT · 24-02-2005, 12:20 AM

moved to aussie V6 section

also i have seen a turbo 202 torana in a street machine mag that had like 300+rwhp and to get that much it had a price list of a rough cost if u can find someone to do the work and it wasnt cheap at all

If you want turbo why not buy a RB30DET or something they arent that expensive and if you are puttin it into a car with a stock 202 then the RB30 will feel like a rocket ship to comparison

mark · 24-02-2005, 09:27 AM

rb30e with a rb26det top end?
double over head cam, great mod and will give you a fair bit more power!

REV308 · 24-02-2005, 09:26 PM

just stick a turbo on a good old v8 and really hang on.

VHSLX253 · 26-02-2005, 11:29 AM

I'm into my v8's more, what would be the best bang for you buck (turbo or super)?

I'm talking about a stock internal (for now) 304 efi with 170,000km on the clock but still running sweet.

Regards.

VHSLX253...
with 136.7kw @ wheels...

Fooksy · 27-02-2005, 02:33 AM

If your gunna add aspiration of any kind to an older 202 with stock internals then shit is gunna be getting bent and ****ed up left right and centre. Best bang for buck for a V8 (or a 6 at that matter) is gunna be a supercharger set up. Yes, turbos will decimate all, but god damn they come with a heavy price tag. But yeah, your gunna have to beef up your running gear a tad to prevent stuff breaking on you.

evil_ss · 27-02-2005, 07:30 PM

for the 304 the 9 psi vortech s trim kit or equivalent would be good bang for ya bucks.With no cooler it would prob give you around 100fwkw with injectors etc

Fooksy · 08-03-2005, 04:10 AM

Where do you buy vortechs from? I don't want to order one though autobarn cuz then every punk will know what I'm packin under the hood. I'm looken at gettin a FMIC rigged up with it too. Anyone know any sites with info and prices and the like????

Cheers!

21-02-2005, 09:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
VHSLX253 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Adelaide Hills, Adelaide Ride: Posts: 205	Single Turbo 202 EFI Has anyone thought of building a commodore like this, would it achieve respectable times? VK Berlina 3.3ltr 202 efi worked with head, cam, flatop pistions and 9,0:! compression Garrett single turbo system running 10psi Turbosmart blow off valve Front mounted intercooler Strengthened 3-speed trimatic with a stage 2 shift kit and a 2500rpm stall convertor Rebuilt VL turbo diff with 3.73:1 gears 15x7" Pursuit rims with 225's Pacmaker extractors with a single 3" system What are your thoughts on this car? Regards. VHSLX253... with 136.7kw @ wheels...

22-02-2005, 10:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Litre8 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney Ride: Torana SLR 8000 , VE SSV Commodore Posts: 120	Drop the comp to 8:1 or lower, crank the boost up to 18-20psi, convert it to run a specific turbo roller cam, go at least 1.72 a/r on the turbo exhaust housing to minimise back pressure.... and hang on! Last edited by Litre8; 22-02-2005 at 10:51 PM.

23-02-2005, 05:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Litre8 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney Ride: Torana SLR 8000 , VE SSV Commodore Posts: 120	It will give street VLs a real run but ultimately the block and crank are stronger in the Nissan engine so ultimate power potential is higher with the Nissan engine. A streetable 500hp at the flywheel is definately achievable though from the 202, I used to get 380hp at the rear wheels with only 16psi and 6000rpm (went to 22psi and 8000rpm....) __________________ http://litre8.com Last edited by Litre8; 23-02-2005 at 06:53 PM.

23-02-2005, 06:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Daryn Super Moderator Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: rockhampton, qld Ride: VS ute Posts: 3,826	But if you wanted real bang for your buck you can't go past a Vl turbo......in my opinion, the rb30et has it all over the 202. Its strength in stock form is a major advantage. __________________ amore...odio...tragedia

24-02-2005, 12:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
SpLiT Super Moderator Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: chermside, brisbane, QLD Ride: vh commodore, vp commodore Posts: 2,836	moved to aussie V6 section also i have seen a turbo 202 torana in a street machine mag that had like 300+rwhp and to get that much it had a price list of a rough cost if u can find someone to do the work and it wasnt cheap at all If you want turbo why not buy a RB30DET or something they arent that expensive and if you are puttin it into a car with a stock 202 then the RB30 will feel like a rocket ship to comparison __________________ New - VH 304 with N20 - 382rwhp without gas SKIT58 OLD VH SL/E 308 on giggle OVH308 355's are like belly buttons everyone has one and all they are good for is collecting dust

21-02-2005, 11:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
why30l Newbie Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: everywhere Ride: vl calais v8 Posts: 10	all sounds good accept 9-1 compression and you should go for a 500hp t3t4 internal gate turbo then will run some good times maybe 12s

22-02-2005, 05:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
VHSLX253 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Adelaide Hills, Adelaide Ride: Posts: 205	What else could be done to this car to get to low 10's? yt high ratio roller rockers 3.91:1 diff ratio Regards. VHSLX253... with 136.7kw @ wheels...

23-02-2005, 05:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
VHSLX253 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Adelaide Hills, Adelaide Ride: Posts: 205	Will this setup give the VL turbo's a run for there money, if this a cost effective car compared to the VL's? Regards. VHSLX253... with 136.7kw @ wheels...

23-02-2005, 11:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
mark Your friendly admin Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brisbane Ride: Posts: 8,128	and is it cost effective? well, considering the amount of workshops who specialise in go fast vlt's, then no not really.. you can get a vlt engine kit for around $7000 that will pull 12's. maybe less.. talk to PET although they're trying to break away from the VLT market, they've got 9second vlt's that run every weekend without fail. built strong!

24-02-2005, 09:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
mark Your friendly admin Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brisbane Ride: Posts: 8,128	rb30e with a rb26det top end? double over head cam, great mod and will give you a fair bit more power!

24-02-2005, 09:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
REV308 Senior Member Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: vic Ride: Tonner, vk, statesman drag car, torana drag car Posts: 418	just stick a turbo on a good old v8 and really hang on.

26-02-2005, 11:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
VHSLX253 casual poster Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Adelaide Hills, Adelaide Ride: Posts: 205	I'm into my v8's more, what would be the best bang for you buck (turbo or super)? I'm talking about a stock internal (for now) 304 efi with 170,000km on the clock but still running sweet. Regards. VHSLX253... with 136.7kw @ wheels...

27-02-2005, 02:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
Fooksy Deliciously Ugly Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hervey Bay, QLD Ride: VN Calais Posts: 2,802	If your gunna add aspiration of any kind to an older 202 with stock internals then shit is gunna be getting bent and **ed up left right and centre. Best bang for buck for a V8 (or a 6 at that matter) is gunna be a supercharger set up. Yes, turbos will decimate all, but god damn they come with a heavy price tag. But yeah, your gunna have to beef up your running gear a tad to prevent stuff breaking on you. __________________ Smells like dandruff.....**

27-02-2005, 07:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
evil_ss ADMINISTRATOR Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Perth Ride: 93 s2 VP SS and 05 Astra Posts: 6,420	for the 304 the 9 psi vortech s trim kit or equivalent would be good bang for ya bucks.With no cooler it would prob give you around 100fwkw with injectors etc __________________ ONE OF THE ELUSIVE MODERATOR/ADMIN TEAM Go check out my SS at cardomain For all your photography and imagery needs austinphotography@iinet.net.au

08-03-2005, 04:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
Fooksy Deliciously Ugly Trade Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hervey Bay, QLD Ride: VN Calais Posts: 2,802	Where do you buy vortechs from? I don't want to order one though autobarn cuz then every punk will know what I'm packin under the hood. I'm looken at gettin a FMIC rigged up with it too. Anyone know any sites with info and prices and the like???? Cheers! __________________ Smells like dandruff.....

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